Hi Van, I fully understand how folks want to be "the thing" And I could careless.

The problem is and is exactly what I said, things like egg binding, and picky feeders, is what was solved many many years ago. Those things seem to be lost with current recipe husbandry.

I cannot understand why any one would not take some effort to make it easier on the females, when its easy and inexpensive to do.

If I may, In my conversations with Gregg, he uses recipe husbandry, yet adjusts it to cure individual problems. That is All I am trying to point out. My position on nesting seems to have helped even Gregg. I think Gregg does a great job, because he adjusts to the animal.

Whats lacking now is the "BELIEF in the animals" its replaced by a belief in the RECIPE, or belief in what someone told them, and not in the animal. Recipes are great, a great place to start, But they REQUIRE adjusting to fit the animal and the conditions of each individual keeper. Most MISS that.

If you look at some of the discussions, many folks here, automatically blame the animal, if their RECIPE husbandry fails.

They also seem to have a real need to "BE RIGHT" when in fact, there is no right. right with animals is a temporary event that can pass if you do not keep supporting the animal.(and its changing needs)

The fact that some of you whine like little babies, is very telling.

The current generation has minimalized husbandry to a point that its sad. Yet, what does belong to this generation is genetics. Which is wonderful. All I ask is, don't forget about the animals needs in your quest for genetics.

Lastly, you cannot expect me to see eye to eye with sweater box husbandry, when I see these very animals in nature, on a day to day basis. Best wishes.

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