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Understanding tweaking.

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Posted by: FR at Sun Aug 18 11:11:25 2013  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]  
   

Please attempt to understand this, all and anyone has the right to keep their animals in any method they choose and for whatever reason that makes you choose that method, real or otherwise. So do not get your undies wadded up.

Its again about the animals.

What does bother me is blaming the animal, as in, below, its stated, not all snakes should do well, insinuating that some inherently do not feed well. That is blaming the snake for your failure to support them in a way that covers HOGNOSE, not most hognose.

In nature, the conditions support all hognose to have the want to FEED and feed well. The problem is not a snake that will not feed, its about the ability or luck to find something to feed on.

Mother nature, has culled hognose for tens of thousands of years and selects the individuals that feed. Feeding is mandatory to survival. Feeding is hardwired. To a point if cannibalism. The want to feed is not a natural problem.

So you have complete control over the conditions that support hognose. And many of you take the position that its the animals fault because, my 7 other hogs do well.

The reality is, the problem feeder is the canary, its just the first one to talk back.

In this case, the OP "tweaked" the temps and it responded. I suggested doing that same Tweak to the rest and see how they respond. Then tweak some more.

I suggest offering a wider range of choices and let them pick what they want. Or you can tweak up or tweak down and tweak to your hearts content.

Back to the point of my post, Its not the snakes fault, its NEVER the snakes fault, THEY SIMPLY DID NOT CHOOSE TO BE IN YOUR CAGES. You put them there, so every thing bad is your fault and everything good, is indeed the snakes ability. After all, they are doing just fine, breeding like fiies and have been doing so for tens of thousands of years, WITHOUT US HOG KEEPERS.

NOne of us, not a single one, me included, support our animals in a range as large as they live in naturally. When you as a keeper take away too much, they fail one at a time(the canary) Which is good, that means, its a minor adjustment.

The point, even the experts of the experts, are always making adjustments. Sorry for the rant, its not condescending, its frustration. Have a great day, tomorrow off to the bush again where they are supported to feed, if only they can find food.


   

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