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RE: Speculation on venom - is it really?

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Posted by: FR at Thu Aug 29 08:21:41 2013  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]  
   

Wonderful, I think and its only my opinion, toxin is a material that's deleterious, Venom is that toxin injected with deleterious effects superior to it just touching the surface. Again its just words.

The world of venom and venom research, has had a new door opened. It was opened by GBF. He found toxins in harmless snakes and those without a delivery system, that was consistent with venomous snakes, but in lower and less toxic levels.

I think whats missing in this conversation is, evolution. The evolution of venomous snakes is suppose to be from harmless to venomous. But it does not matter, the development was taught to me as a specialization of saliva glands. That is, the modification to encompass new tasks. So there has to be a place to start and venom started as saliva and contains the same base properties. But has evolved to a point of specific use. You said, proteins, common proteins are important to understanding the reaction to harmless snake bites.

Proteins have different and real reactions to different people.

It seems to me, there are far more people with severe allergies. This may eventually pose a problem with keeping harmless snakes.

Again, I would in the field yesterday and was lucky enough to locate a number of LARGE females, some males and neonates. Not a single one bit me. I did take a bite from a coachwhip. hahahahahahahahahaha They bite! Thanks for the conversation


   

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