Thanks Gregg. As mentioned one million times, you can do what you want. Why you and others sit around and say, maybe this or maybe that, or maybe the other. Is weird. The method I showed, is extreme and covers many species and many conditions. That is, it allows the keeper to make mistakes.

The smaller you make it, the conditions change faster, and the more work there is on you. The larger you make it, the mass holds the humidity far longer and you can even leave the eggs in there to hatch if you like or use it for other females. This was all explained a million times. The design came about because I was going to be in the field for weeks and needed something to allow the females to nest and stay there for weeks. And when I returned, all was fine, eggs and snakes.

Greggs design is smaller and will not allow weeks or months to go by. Smaller then that allows less room for error. Smaller amounts of substrate, dry out quicker. its pretty much that simple. In that, like Caracal showed, even with deep nesting, they may still choose to nest at the bottom. Why, because they wanted too.

If shallow nesting and deep nesting worked the same(and they don't) and the snakes CHOOSE to nest deep and they do, why do you keepers take away what the snakes wants????? To me, this is the issue. Not works or not, or egg binding, etc. Its a human natural behavior. ITs a control issue. People fight like cats and dogsover this subject, is not because its whats best for the snakes, they fight because its a control issue and you do not want to give control to the snake. Which is also why they don't test it.

What is odd is, to win this argument is easy, you can do what you want, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO. There is no argument for that. But you guys do not do that either. pt1

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