Caracal, we like you, no one is messing with you as a person. ITs your response that is telling, You admit to jumping midstream, and because you think you know whats being said. You sir stated that. The suggestion would be, before you go calling names and accusing others of anything. Try to listen and UNDERSTAND what they are saying. Personally all you care about is you and what you call FACT. Sir, no ones doubting what your seeing, In fact, us old timers have seen the same things. What your missing is what your not listening too. Which is, WHAT you may see if you tried something else. Not even big changes, just little ones.

Put it this way, I could careless about method or right or wrong. The engine that drives good husbandry is PASSION. and you have some. I HAVE A LOT. Just take your passion and guide it by listening to, FIRST the animals, then anything that "possibly" improve your husbandry. Not the people saying it, the things said that could help you.

This CRAP about believing, in you want my personal opinion on this. I feel, only idiots believe. Our task is to question and test. So yes, I want you question all things I say, But then you really need to test it, not call names.

ALso, how your guided by some others, will hold you back. How something is proved is never something said, its thru testing. If you refuse to test, then be happy with what you have. If you want something proved, then get off your ARSE and prove it.

It appears, you actually want to do stuff, so man up and do it. Not call others names.

Look at Troy, everybody is a bad guy, And what tell you, others are bad guys, sir that's childs play horse crap. Its not about the people.

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