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RE: Hey FR pt 2

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Posted by: caracal at Tue Jul 1 19:39:42 2014  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by caracal ]  
   

You did a full 180 between your two posts:
"Great question, I mean a great question....wild snake clutches(in nature) and found there was some infertility. I have pics if me checking croc nests. I found full term dead babies, in eggs and infertile eggs in each nest...
In all the years in the field, I have indeed seen maybe five females with held eggs...And yes, I palpate all snakes on the road, and some in the field...So far, no held eggs with hogs.
The point is, nature covers all possibilities, from mass die offs, to super successful. I do not believe in any way, failure is only in captivity. Nature wacks them dead in more ways then you can imagine..."
"Its not a good question, first because theres not enough data, and more importantly, Nesting is hardwired... A healthy population, is healthy, first because of good recruitment. Which means, eggs hatch. Failure for eggs to hatch occurs when something drastic occurs, floods, drought, fire, drastic change in conditions. Egg binding or held eggs would also have those types of causes. Failure to deposit eggs, is totally abnormal to recruitment. Remember, they have had millions of years to perfect nesting, egg deposition, and the ability to deliver eggs. If an individual becomes egg bound, its erased, end of that genetic line. Or end of that behavioral line. So in of lack of data, its simply not logical or realistic that egg binding is a "normal" occurrence. does it occur, sure. How often, pretty dang rarely. it is far more likely to happen In captivity because we simply do not have a handle on how they nest in nature, which is what their design is for. With the subject of nesting material as misunderstood as it is."
My question was how many hogs in the field, that have obviously just laid, have you palpated?
It doesn't make much sense to say that is not a good question, because of lack of data and then, instead, write a lengthy discourse explaining why obviously the answer would be zero.


   

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