The natural environment for all of the North American hognose species in indeed sandy loamy soil types. Species like hognose are specialized and evolved. They are a product of their environment. Anything ever written on their natural environment is the same. They come from areas of the US, Canada, and Mexico that are dry and arid where the soil type is sandy and loamy. This is really not up for debate. It is safe to say that the habitat types are pretty much identical in any part of the US, Canada, and Mexico Heterodon nasicus are found.

I guess we can turn this around on Frank and ask him to prove that hogs do not use sphagnum moss in the wild. However, the places you find sphagnum mosses are not in hognose snake habitat. Sphagnum mosses grow peat bogs, conifer forests and moist tundra areas. None of these habitat types support any species of Heterodon. So turning this around will only cement what Frank is saying.

I do not see Franks challenge as dumb. However, I do not see what he is asking to be needed. One only needs to look at what is currently documented as Heterodon habitat.

I agree, Frank may have an ego, but so do we all. I have seen Frank say some things I do not agree with and some things seem to be out there. However, I have yet to see him argue any "proven science". What is "proven science" anyway?

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