please understand the First wave of husbandry was discovery. That is learning how to keep and breed a species. With Hogs, that was done in the early seventies(along with many many species) So how to successfully breed Hogs has been known and done for decades. So there is no discovery to be done here.

The second wave of husbandry was more about simplifying it, and breaking it down to the least base requirements. The start of commercial breeding occurred here.

The Third wave and what Philippe de Vosjoli, was attempting to get to the public was, the above, based on the species and individuals animals, normal natural characteristics.. Not materials and conditions foreign to the animals. As I mentioned from the beginning, THAT IS MY INTERESTS. Not so much being successful with a hognose, as mentioned, that was done many decades ago. I mention this because it seems to be some weird goal that I become like you folks. Which would be great if I had the same interests, but I don't. My interest is third wave based. So please don't expect me to do or think otherwise. end pt 3

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