Hi Will, There are many possibilities, and what is true is not really important.

Nasty, only wants to hinder others, so he attacks(troll) and posts nothing about the subject of this forum.

Caracal, does post about what hes doing and that's wonderful.

But as you indicated neither one seems to understand what testing means. Or what applied husbandry means. Both want to talk in scientific jargon but both fail to grasp the concept of science. Methods of husbandry only have value if applied, properly(remember why theres lab classes). They only reveal results when applied. So in order for this to not be theory or academic, Caracal must apply the techniques in question and reveal his own results. But that's not what they seem to want.

Its about recipe(I am guessing here) they seem to want, something proven by consensus, and not by testing. which is how recipe methods work, and why they are so limiting. The reason is, consensus is to average, and average always reveals average.

In their discussions with me, they seem to want me to agree with them by making some persuasive argument. Which does not work with me. Not with applied technique. What will persuade me is ACTUAL RESULTS, by them, then by me.

Gregg, you and I, have actual results, and they think that's suppose to convince them. Its not, they need to test technique PROPERLY, in order to convince themselves Or as you say, not.

This has been mentioned about a million times, so the above is not the point. For sure with nasti, all he wants is to argue and disparage others. You know, over and over about how wrong a person is. Caracal is confusing, as he talks animals, then behaves like Nasti, name calling

If we were at the bar in Daytona, I would simply say, do it or not, now buy me a beer. Why would I say that. What they do or believe is not important to me, not nearly as important as the beer. It should be important to them. If not, that's ok too. So wheres the beer. Also, I do not drink much, and beer is not important either. Just fun to have a couple.

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