Wanta fight, Holy moly Gregg, ones that "LOOK" like those.

That is lite animals with lite markings. And what is a super, white? And of course a pair of white type wild phenotypes will indeed produce both liter and darker offspring.

ALso, my axanthic whites, the axanthic morph of normal whites, are founders and as such will benefit from captive line breeding, just like the animals your talking about.

My opinions are based on being an outsider, I have no interest in westerns, so I get to look at them from a third party view.

It seems like a race to make names, more then a race to make morphs. Greens with little to no green, reds that are not red, etc etc. And artics that are not white. Its not based on you Gregg, its based on the ones I see at shows, and the internet. At shows, the deli cups have all manner of names and contain "normal looking" hogs.

So I ask, when am I going to see a hog that's actually green and not have some green tinges, at least yours have tinges of green, others have zero. Or Reds that are red. etc.

I will say this, from a conservation point of view, I thank you guys for what you've done, I would guess that at least 90% if not more of all captive western hognose, are captive bred and hatched, that sir is a wonderful job. So all this promotional naming that goes on, that makes me scratch my head, Is a wonderful thing. So thanks so much for that, in the mean time, I will keep looking in deli cups and scratching my head, waiting for a green, green, or a red, red, or a white, artic. And no Gregg, I am not here to argue genetics, all in all, genetics is a means to an end, I am waiting for the ends. Thank again sir

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