return to main index

  mobile - desktop
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter follow us on YouTube link to us on LinkedIn
 
click here for Rodent Pro
Mice, Rats, Rabbits, Chicks, Quail
Available Now at RodentPro.com!
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: Herp Photo of the Day: Lizard . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day: Dumeril's Boa . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - Dec 15, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  San Diego Herp Society Meeting - Dec 17, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - Dec 21, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - Dec 27, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  Suncoast Herp Society Meeting - Dec 28, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - Dec 28, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - Jan 01, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Calusa Herp Society Meeting - Jan 02, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  Southwestern Herp Society Meeting - Jan 04, 2025 . . . . . . . . . .  St. Louis Herpetological Society - Jan 12, 2025 . . . . . . . . . . 
Join USARK - Fight for your rights!
full banner - advertise here .50¢/1000 views
Layne Labs - Natural Diets for Pets & Wildlife
pool banner - $50 year

RE: question about the distemper shot

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Cat Discussions ] [ Reply To This Message ]
[ Register to Post ]

Posted by: Deerhounds at Wed Jul 27 01:48:08 2005  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Deerhounds ]  
   

>>Due to sarcomas (site cancers) appearing in cats who were given the three year rabies vaccine, the FDA has suggested that cats get a rabies vaccine every year (which actually can be found as a still active titer at 18 months after the vaccine was last given).

Well, no. The FDA has absolutely nothing to do with animal vaccines. The USDA oversees animal vaccines. And the USDA has issued absolutely no recommendations relating to feline injection site sarcomas and rabies vaccination.

The only people "suggesting" annual rabies vaccination are the makers of Purevax, an adjuvant-free rabies vaccine for cats made by Merial, which may or may not reduce the incidence of sarcomas. I don't know, they don't know, and no one knows yet if that's true. Time will tell. And Merial is still testing Purevax for a three year label claim. To suggest that cats get a rabies vaccine annually to prevent injection site sarcomas is very dangerous advice if the vaccine is the standard rabies vaccine with adjuvants, and even if it IS Purevax, we still do not really know that will be safer. Injection site sarcomas have been caused by insulin injections, needle sticks for blood draws, and other forms of puncture, not just by rabies or other vaccines with adjuvants.

> As you probably know, rabies is required even for indoor-only cats because mice, squirrels, bats, etc. can get into your home and can be carriers. <

This is not true ... it varies from state to state. The state where I live, California, does not require rabies vaccination for cats. I don't argue whether or not it's ADVISABLE, I'm simply saying it's not required.

> (Titers have been described to me as the indicators of the active immunity in the blood.) <

While having a titer (a measurable level of antibodies) in your blood does indicate immunity, NOT having a titer does not indicate lack of immunity. That's because immunity comes from memory cells, which we can't measure. Memory cells produce antibodies, but we don't need antibodies in our blood to make us immune.

>>The feline leukemia vaccine (which is only really needed if your cat will be exposed to other cats in an outdoor environment) can last up to three years > but a lot of vets are reccommending that it also be given every year because it's less effective (only about 85% in cats on the three year plan), so more frequent vaccines for kitties who go outdoors helps boost their immunity by refreshing the titers more frequently. >The distemper vaccine (which a lot of vets are calling a "3-way" because it protects against 3 airborne viruses - and has NOTHING to do with your cat's temper) has been approved as an every three year vaccine. It seems to be the only one that maintains a full three year titer without causing sarcomas or other negitive reactions at the injection site. >There are, of course, several vets who will do the three year rabies, leukemia and distemper vaccines on alternating schedules (so that they see your cat every year, but only give one vaccine per year.)
>>
>>This is information I was given by a cat only vet.

And yet there is no more scientific evidence in support of a three-year interval than there was for the one-year interval.
-----
Christie Keith
Caber Feidh Scottish Deerhounds
Holistic Husbandry since 1986
Meet the Felines!


   

[ Reply To This Message ] [ Subscribe to this Thread ] [ Hide Replies ]


>> Next topic:  Cat needs help...how do you like holistic care? - ponygal1129, Sat Apr 16 09:43:28 2005
<< Previous topic:  Does anyone know...? - Herpeto-punk, Mon Apr 4 05:25:14 2005