You shouldn't be disappointed, There are two parts to this. The animals, and the people. People fight and argue. Its what they do.

As we each have our own thoughts, facts, ideas, etc., that makes discussion valuable. Its not about right or wrong. The problem is, and you did it above.

Its not about people, There is no need to use Dan's name. Or make it about Dan. Talk about the event.

This forum was destroyed long before I came here, in fact, I asked about that when I first entered this site.

The reason is, its about the hognose people, not the hognose. I brought that up over and over. So what happens, I get attacked. Dan gets attacked, etc etc. Then each one complains they are being attacked. How silly.

The problem as I see it is, folks like Troy, cannot live in the present and look to the future. They live in the past. We are taught to keep records, someone forgot to tell the Troys, the records are suppose to be of the animals. Not the keepers. To keep records on what anyone said, years ago, is beyond sick. And indicates a serious lack of interest in the animals.

When I came here, you guys were afraid, FR would change your playground. The fact is, you guys are changing the playground. That's what happens when you work with something, it does not stay the same. That is what science is for. To grow, to learn, to change. not to stay the same. Same for genes by the way. They are not intended to stay the same. So indeed morphs will always MORPH. That makes it fun, you get to make up new names.

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