>>Thanks for the tip. I haven't tried it yet but will. Fortunately I got most to go on live pinks and sold them as such. These last 2 clutches have been as hard as any Alternas I have worked with. I am still re-thinking the whole lizard scenting though for the future as I believe it makes it even harder to get them on pinks in the long run.

Someone told me about this at the beginning of the year, I had 6 graybands that I tried everything to try and get them to feed, not even lizard scenting was working, tried the boiled pinks. 3 out of the 6 fed right away. I tried liz. scent with the boild pinks and that also worked. Within 3 months I had wined all 6 of them off the boiled, Liz. scent pinks and on to reg F/T pinks.
Good Luck, Bob


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