return to main index

  mobile - desktop
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter follow us on YouTube link to us on LinkedIn
 
click here for Rodent Pro
Mice, Rats, Rabbits, Chicks, Quail
Available Now at RodentPro.com!
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: Herp Photo of the Day: Garter Snake . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day: Bearded Dragon . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - Nov 22, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  Suncoast Herp Society Meeting - Nov 23, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - Nov 23, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  Tucson Herpetological Society Meeting - Nov 25, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - Dec 04, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  Calusa Herp Society Meeting - Dec 05, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  Southwestern Herp Society Meeting - Dec 07, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  Kentucky Reptile Expo - Dec. 07, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  St. Louis Herpetological Society - Dec 08, 2024 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - Dec 15, 2024 . . . . . . . . . . 
Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research
full banner - advertise here .50¢/1000 views
Layne Labs - Natural Diets for Pets & Wildlife
pool banner - $50 year

Broghammerus gen. nov, gets widespread approval

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Taxonomy Discussion ] [ Reply To This Message ]
[ Register to Post ]

Posted by: rayhoser at Mon Aug 2 02:31:54 2004  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by rayhoser ]  
   

Thanks gents for your comments.
They were in the "negative" as expected from you two, who are incapable of ever saying anything positive about anything I (Raymond Hoser) do, hence the permanent negative slant.
At least this means WW and Wulf are both alive and well and in the spirit of Christmas in a few months, I wish you both well.
I deliberately left you the forum to yourself for a week or two to throw all your criticisms at my paper and it is obvious that in material substance you both have none.
The criticisms leveled at me by the two of you are broadly as follows:
1/ Unsubstantiated claims or changes without data.
And
2/ Other people have come to the same view previously.
In terms of the first, this is offensive. In another thread elsewhere, Richard Wells refuted the same criticism of his papers by referring the same critic to the references cited. I do the same here. Had I rehashed the detail of the references in the paper itself, I may have escaped the lack of evidence claim and instead got a plagiarisation claim instead. Put another way, I would be damned either way. Hence the original criticism by Wulf isn't valid.
In terms of "2" which was WW's " Other people have come to the same view previously." Claim (paraphrased by me here), I am happy for this and I suppose that it lends credibility to my propositions in that other respected herpers have formed the same views.
I note that WW or Wulf have steered clear of openly criticizing the major taxonomic act in this paper, the naming of Broghammerus, as the new genus name for the "reticulatus" group as first proposed by Sam McDowell and others.
The placement of reticulatus and molurus in the same genus has always been questionable and hence it was inevitable that a new genus would be erected for the reticulatus group. WW is just jacked off that his adversary in the form of myself happened to be the mug who did it and that he will find his peers using the name in future.
While the name Broghammerus will come into wider usage as the obvious is recognised by other herpetologists, there's no doubt anyone who uses the name on forums like kingsnake will have to put up with the improper howls of protest and "nomen nudem" by WW and Wulf.
Cheers to you all.
RAYMOND HOSER - AUSTRALIA
New python taxa


   

[ Reply To This Message ] [ Subscribe to this Thread ] [ Hide Replies ]


>> Next topic:  Need help finding a link - HighDesertHerper, Thu Jul 22 00:40:08 2004
<< Previous topic:  taxonomy on water dragons??? help anyone maybe ingo???? - chong188, Fri Jul 16 23:41:21 2004