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oldherper
at Fri Sep 10 07:15:40 2004 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by oldherper ]
>>Hi oldherper,
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>>Perhaps your right. It is ridiculous, but on the other hand serious working herpers and taxonomists still have to do the work and get no credits on the name... I guess this sort of abuse is not what the ICZN thought of when publishing the code.
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>>Now for my proposal...I want to propose a change in Taxonomy for the Eastern Indigo Snake from Drymarchon couperi to Coolsnakeus oldherperi. Whaddya think? I don't have any supporting data, but apparently that's not a prerequisite anyway.
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>>Ok, you try and publish your proposals and we give you a laugh
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>>Cheers from Germany *smile*
>>Wulf
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>>http://www.leiopython.de ,
>>http://www.herpers-digest.com
Wulf,
That's exactly my point. Serious researchers have not only put time and effort into these things and done whatever work has been done, but also have to spend their time refuting Mr. Hoser's claims. It's ridiculous. It seems like something could be done to stop this. You guys put your time, effort, knowledge and expertise into researching these Taxonaomic relationships and then some yahoo latches on to your coattail and tries to claim it and rename in such a fashion as to get their (and some friend's) name into the records for credit. It's obvious. If you look at a valid proposal then compare it to one of these, there's no comparison. It's then a relatively easy matter to research further and find previous studies by others that were never proposed, but put forth some of the same underlying ideas that Mr. Hoser claims as his own "original" work. Then his defense is to refer to a valid change that involved one of the people that are challenging him and say "Does this mean you're changing your mind about this?" What?!?!?! Where's the correlation? His real defense would be to provide the supporting data that he's been repeatedly asked to provide. The very fact that he fails to respond to those requests at all is proof positive that the supporting data does not exist, or that he doesn't have access to it (or can't provide it) because it belongs to someone else.
It's pathetic, really. It's hard to believe that someone would be that desperate for attention and recognition. I don't think he even realizes how embarrassed he should be.
You guys that do the actual work and then have to put up with this sort of plagerism certainly have my sympathy.
I wasn't trying to imply that it is ridiculous that you spend your time defending against this, only that it's ridiculous that you have to in the first place. He's making a mockery of the science of Taxonomy.
Anyway...thanks for the vote of confidence on my proposed Taxonomy change. 
O.H.
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