return to main index

  mobile - desktop
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter follow us on YouTube link to us on LinkedIn
Click for ZooMed  
Click here to visit Classifieds
This Space Available
Contact Sales!
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: Fun Fact Friday - Green Tree Monitor . . . . . . . . . .  The Evolution of the Osteoderm discovered . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - Feb 04, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - Feb 15, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Redding Reptile Expo - Feb 21-22 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS - Feb. 21-22, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - Feb 21, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - Feb 27, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - Feb 28, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - Mar 04, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - Mar 15, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - Mar 21, 2026 . . . . . . . . . . 
Click to visit Classifieds
full banner - advertise here .50¢/1000 views
Click here for Dragon Serpents
pool banner - $50 year

RE: sibling species...

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Taxonomy Discussion ] [ Reply To This Message ]
[ Register to Post ]

Posted by: CKing at Mon Apr 10 13:07:53 2006  [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by CKing ]  
   

>>Hi folks,
>>
>>what is the current "handling" for sibling species (morphological indistinguishable but isolated (= allopatric). Are they recognized at subspecific rank today?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Wulf
>>-----
>>http://www.leiopython.de - the white-lipped python site -
>>http://www.herpers-digest.com - herp related eBooks search -

Allopatry is geographic isolation, not reproductive isolation. If they are morphologically indistinguishable, then there is little evidence that they are different species and should not be recognized as different species. If, however, it can be shown that they have differentiated in some other way that result in reproductive isolation (for example, one population has become a polyploid and the other remains a diploid), then each should be named a different species. A good example is the Hyla chrysoscelis-Hyla versicolor species pair. They are morphologically identical, and yet reproductively isolated because one of them is a diploid and the other is a tetraploid species that has twice the number of chromosomes. Hybridization between these two species is not possible.

Of course there are some taxnomists who behave differently. They will invoke the so-called "evolutionary species concept" or Willi Hennig's "phylogenetic species concept" and call 2 allopatric populations 2 different species on the basis of as little as a single character difference between the two populations. Some taxonomists call this practice a return to "Taylor taxonomy." Edward H. Taylor was a well known taxonomist who made tremendous contributions to herpetology, but he also recognized numerous species on the basis of minor morphological differences. Many of these "species" have subsequently been placed in the synonymy of other well established species. Taylor is gone, but "Taylor taxonomy" is apparently being revived by some taxonomists. In the future, however, many of the "species" being named today on the basis of minutle morphological differences will likely be placed in the synonymy of other species.


   

[ Reply To This Message ] [ Subscribe to this Thread ] [ Hide Replies ]

  • sibling species... - Wulf, Fri May 27 04:06:19 2005
    • You Are HereRE: sibling species... - CKing, Mon Apr 10 13:07:53 2006

>> Next topic:  Colubrid venoms, Opheodrys, etc. - nekomi, Wed Jun 1 13:21:38 2005
<< Previous topic:  Scientific Names - colorfulcritters, Mon May 23 21:15:45 2005


kingsnake.com | NRAAC.ORG | ReptileBusinessGuide.com | ReptileShowGuide.com | ReptileShows.mobi | Connected By Cars | DesertRunner.org
AprilFirstBioEngineering | GunHobbyist.com | GunShowGuide.com | GunShows.mobi | GunBusinessGuide.com | club kingsnake | live stage magazine


powered by kingsnake.com
Click to visit PACNWRS
pool banner - advertise here
Click here for Dragon Serpents
advertise here
Click to visit Classifieds
advertise here
kingsnake.com® is a registered trademark© 1997-
    - this site optimized for 1024x768 resolution -