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Posted by: JohnLokken at Sun Feb 19 09:35:59 2006   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by JohnLokken ]  
   

"Pastels are as close as you can get to normals any more."



People who own pastel boas can and will see a difference between "normals". I think comparing a pastel boa to a normal is a real disservice to the line. Or, saying it's the new normal.....Maybe I am not fully understanding what you are meaning as well. If so, I apologize. I not trying to be a butt head. Just clarifying.

I am pretty adamate about this since I love and own a few pastels. I try to "fight the good fight" when these issues come up.

Like most boas, you will find verying degrees of the pastel trait. The selling price should reflect the animal. It's akin to the hypo boa. You'll see some ok ones selling for the low 300.00's. You'll also see them up around 2000.00 .

Do the animals you are selling exibit the pastel definition? I would say yes. Do I think your price was fair? I do. I sold a few of my pastel babies at that price when I had my last litter.

They were pastel in nature/looks. They have the Lucy pastel bloodline in them. But, their price was lower due to the lessened visual appearence of the trait.

But, the one big issue is..........A lot of people are selling normals/"low grade" pastels on the classifieds. Many people see these animals and think to themselves........"That's just a high priced normal." In a lot of cases I think they are correct. I just got done having a small conversation with a friend that is sick of the pastel name. He may even start calling his pastels "nice normals" to get away from the pastel name. I respectfully disagree. But, to each their own. (Yeah, you may be bigger and stronger..........But, I'm sneaky. LOL!)

I am always looking on the classifieds. Maybe one in ten of those animals are a good representation of a nice pastel. Matt Crabe's pastel is a great example. I saw that for sale and thought to myself I should buy that. It's a beautiful animal and comes from a great bloodline/litter. There is nothing normal about that boa in my opinion.

Just my rant. I think the pastel trait is getting muddied by "normals" being called pastels. Another example of this was the Jungle controversy. When jungles were hot. Everyone and their mother was calling/selling their animals as jungles. This screwed a lot of people I think. They paid for a bloodline that was not from the original swedish bloodline. Therefore, it could not and should not be considered a Jungle. Anyone remember the "Cungle boa"? LOL!

My pastels come from an existing bloodline that were originated by the founder of the name. Are their other pastel bloodlines out thier? Of course! There are some awesome ones out there! As usual, it is a buyer beware environment out there.

Enough of my rant. I'm off to work.

Have a good one. Sorry for the grammer errors. This was types fast so I could get out of here.

John
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"To be the best..........You must lose your mind."


   

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