Tim,



It is now 8:48 am, and been up all night, well since midnight. I guess sleeping for 3 days is trying to balance out. Called "old man vigor"



Been reading all night on these candy canes and miami thangs you guys call corns. Like I said I love charts. But its starting to sink in. Just so many combos, and if you have not done them I think it's harder.



Still plain on playing with some bloodreds of various types. But I need to talk to youabout what you breed. Lots of cool high end stuff. Prefer something unique in the P's O P area. Or maybe other ideas too. That german site had some sweet corns, including that leopard rat snake. Not a corn, but very cool. I still think end of summer will be the buying time. Your brain, my good looks,, eerr,, your brawn, my ,, no that aint it? Has to be a good combo there somewhere? Maybe co dominant, err no, thats not going to work.. Maybe I'll stick to getting Zops and crickets. lol



Lordy I hope to sleep sometime soon.



tom



>>Tom,

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>>That's a "very pretty normal." JK!

>>The trouble with creamsicles is that they're a cross with Great Plains Ratsnakes. This gives you two scenarios for variability:

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>>1) Amelanistic corns are highly variable (candy cane, sunglow, reverse Okeetee, etc.) so the "look" of a creamsicle can vary as well.

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>>2) Someone may take a creamsicle and breed it to an amel corn. The babies would still be considered creamsicles, even though the percentage of GPR is small. Therefore, you could have a creamsicle that looks pretty much like an amel corn.

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>>Creamsicles do have larger clutches and tend to achieve a larger than average adult size than pure corn snakes. This is known as "hybrid vigor." Here is my het for cream female with a clutch of 30 eggs she laid last summer (most corn snakes don't lay 30-egg clutches).

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>>Tim

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>>Third Eye
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6 baby female Western hognose, 3.5 adults some friend some mine,,,building breeding stock)

1 Corn snake (bloodred) 0.2 1 MIA In the house I hope

1 baby creamcycle 0.1

2 Okeettes I think? 1.1 youngens

ochrocephala oratrix 0.0.1? Adult, and a killer!

ochrocephala auropalliata 0.0.1? Adult

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