"as for the Pied sided or white sided, as soon as i can find the emails I will Post a Coversation between a few people that are involved in producing such snakes,that leaves the subject of hybridization OPEN."

I don't know to whom, or from whom those emails have been addressed, but I know for a fact that Don's pied sided snakes have only purposefully been in the hands of about a dozen people in the whole world. I doubt that any of them are those who suggest that the issue is still "open" for debate.

Most of that dozen have them in their collections right now, and those animals look, act, and respond to stumlii in every regard like a cronsnake. Anyone who says otherwise, is either ignorant of the facts, or lying, and I'll stake my name on that.

Is it POSSIBLE that a non-corn got in the henhouse somewhere back many generations ago? Sure...but that's true for every cornsnake in existence. I know that THESE pied sided bloodreds are NOT the product of specific hybridization, because Don told me so, and that's good enough for me.

The others of the dozen or so who no longer have these animals, were those who were instrumental in the actual BREEDING of the parent animals from which Don got his pied-sided ones. I know who each of them is, and I know that none of them are suggesting that their animals were hybrids either.

Now...

All of that being said, there are at least two other lines of animals with similar markings, which are NOT the same as Don's line. Breeding trials are underway to determine if they are of the same genetic basis, or if something else is afoot. It may be possible that you have spoken with someone who knows of ANOTHER line, which merely LOOKS the same, but was produced through hybridization efforts (corn x whitesided black snake, or something along those lines).

However, even if that is true, the hybridization of one line does not reflect on the purity issue of another line of corns, unless you can show that they both descend from the same breeding project, AND the hybridization efforts were in place prior to the two lines being split from one another. Since that cannot be shown in any way...it is completely inappropriate for you to suggest that Don's snakes are hybrids, whether in theory or not!

There are at least two very popular "morphs" right now about which I have very strong circumstantial evidence that they are the product of hybridization efforts. However, since I cannot prove it, it would be irresponsible of me to simply make my accusations with no solid, irrefutable evidence.

It is irresponsible for you too, Sir.
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Darin Chappell
Hillbilly Herps
PO Box 254
Rogersville, MO 65742

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