You always reply on my posts? Thats ok, I think I said what you said, from a more neutral position.



I've have not spent as much time as you herping I'm sure, but on a different topic, I spent many years fishing, and the idea of a 5 pound bass was a goal, then intergrades in bass made many southern state records go over 20 pounds.



OK, I was tangentizing. I do that at times. Hybrids are ok, IF you can keep them out of the wild. That will not happen. So just for that reason I have choicen not to do any hybrids. And I have thought of them. I think because of that carpet GTP crosses I have seen.



As for insulting nature. That is a vast topic. Pollution, high power lines, dams, ect ect. We've insulted nature from the moment we started to think. But I agree purposely making hybrids insults it in many ways. I have 2 parrots, both subspecies of the yellow front group. I believe a male and a female? One is in brooding behavior, but I do not allow them to be together unless I'm here. I don't want them to mate is 1.1.. And I'll admit 2-3 babies twice a year, at a value of $1000 per hand reared baby is a monitary temptation. But I won't do it. And oddly enough I like some of the hybrid macaws?



Somewhere in there is my point. I have this great ability to ramble on.



>>You will find that most people are against hybrids.

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>>My personal reason why I don't like them is because I spend time in the field. When you do that, you come to appreciate how creatures (not just snakes) are adapted to live in their specific environments.

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>>To take a corn snake and a California kingsnake - two species seperated by hundreds of miles, and having very different lifestyles - and cross them is, in my opinion, an insult to nature.

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>>While the increase in keeping reptiles is a good thing, unfortunately many newcomers have never seen a snake outside of a deli cup at a reptile show. For this reason they think deli cups are perhaps a snake's natural environment and see no harm in mix-and-matching them.

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>>I think that is a shame.

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>>In addition, the vast majority of hybrids are ugly. Yes, I've seen some striking examples every now and then, but they are few and far between.

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>>On of my favorite lines from Jurassic Park is when the Jeff Goldblum character says "You spent all this time asking 'can we do it,' but you never stopped to wonder 'SHOULD we do it.'"

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>>Tim

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>>P.S. - HerpZillA, all domestic dogs are the same species - they're not hybrids.

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>>Third Eye
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