It took Justin 33 minutes to post to Mark's thread where we all verified that he (Mark) produced the Hypo Snow by his photographs. Here is a screenshot...



Vincent,

It took you 2 hours and 20 minutes (approximately) to post to that thread with a congrats to Mark. By the time you posted, Justin had already stated that he produced one also and Mark requested photos and Justin said "Will Do!" So it went like this... Mark - Justin - Mark - Justin all before you, Vincent, ever VISITED the thread! I'd say that should fit right into your scenario. Like you said...

I just don't think he is handling the situation the right way. The day Mark posted the first hypo snow born he should have come forward and told us of his accomplishment. We could have congratulated them both and maybe they could have agreed on a name together. To act like this so far after the fact just because you don't like the name seems rather petty and childish.

Vincent... next time please read through all the posts before you make a statement that implies that someone didn't do what they could.

Also... Justin CAME HOME to all of the babies already born. Who are we to say that it wasn't alive at parturition? You say in your post... "For one Justins was never alive" ... if I wanted to be really technical I could say that YES IT WAS! It was alive in the mother! Looking at the color saturation in the skin I would even say that it was alive at parturition because it had nice color which sort of implies that it was a living breathing snake. Stillborns often look dull and the saturation of color is poor. From what I have seen those first breaths change the look of the snake a pretty good bit.

The examples that I provided with the Pearl and Power Balls makes sense. The animal EXISTED! Didn't it? Therefore it was proven and ready for a name.

The problem here is that there is very little respect (if any) being shown towards the first production. There have been statements like "Congrats but Mark named it first!" Personally I find this to be an insult.

My last comment will be about your statement...

" It seems his friends are more upset about it than he is. It obviously wasn't a big deal to him until a select few didn't like the name Mark chose and wanted to rain on Marks parade."

I have spoken to Mark at shows and would consider him a nice guy. We haven't purchased anything from Mark but I'm sure if we wanted something that he had for sale, we wouldn't hesitate (Not that I don't want his stuff, we produce similar animals therefore we don't need anything at the time) We have, however, purchased from Justin but I wouldn't consider us Justin's friend and not Mark's. This is not about favoritism, it's about courtesy! Justin and Mark both started out on the same foot in this, friendly congradulatory remarks from both sides. Then it took the nasty turn. Mine is alive and yours is not... TOUGH LUCK! And statments like "Then MOONGLOW it is!"

I'm just protecting the right of "Ye who produces it first, names it!" I guess this was never written in stone but it has been a constant that I have believed in since 1995 when I bred my first morph (Corn).

I hope that there is a resolution...

Thanks,
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