Well we don't know if Justin's was never alive. It could have been alive for hours, and I don't think it matters anyway. You say "It obviously wasn't a big deal to him until a select few didn't like the name Mark chose and wanted to rain on Mark's parade." First, After Mark posted pictures Justin posted that he might have produced the first one. What more could he have done? Just because he wasn't wrting long threads doesn't mean it wasn't a big deal to him. Second, this is not about people who don't like the name Mark chose, it is about giving credit to the correct person. To me, It's really that simple. Third, Noone is trying to rain on Mark's parade. He produced an amazing litter and everyone thinks so. Just look back at the thread where he posted his pics. I read things like "I'm in NO WAY trying to take away from Mark's limelite...but I think Justin Higgs needs a little recognition for his litter," "I'm not attempting to steal any of Mark's thunder." People just want Justin to get credit for producing the first one. Alive or stillborn. Let's not forget that over half of the litter is alive and healthy. I completely disagree with your statement "Maybe Justin saw Mark getting all of the accolades for being the first to produce with animal and he got a little jelious." Frankly, I find this insulting and Justin was the first to produce one. I would think this is why he spoke up, not out of jeliousy. To say that he seems to be acting petty and childish is ridiculous and he did come forward right away. If Mark or anyone produced the first one I would be saying the same things. Mark produced an outstanding litter with a genetic wonder and he should be on cload nine for the rest of the year. But Justin produced the first one and deserves credit.

Michael Burton

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