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Hotshot
at Wed Apr 12 19:40:02 2006 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Hotshot ]
Jimmy
I dont think the reclass has happened yet. I know that there is a big hoopla over it and alot of herpetologists/biologists dont agree with it. I dont know how much you have read about it, but the reclass not only concerns the guttatus, but the obsoletus complex as well. I dont agree with it at all. Especially when you are talking about lumping the yellow, the everglades, and the grey rat snakes all into one species. And the Texas rats getting lumped into the same boat as the black rats of MO, AR, KS, OK and the other midwestern states. Just doesnt sit well with me at all.
Brian
>>>>If you use Pantherophis, it is now feminine, and the guttata should be changed to guttatus to reflect. Founding last names remain the same, and are not changed.
>>>> i.e. Pantherophis guttatus guttatus - corn
>>>> Pantherophis guttatus emoryi - GPR
>>>> Pantherophis guttatus slowinskii - Slowinski's corn
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>>>>The obsoleta complex has the same rules applied.
>>>> Pantherophis obsoletus obsoletus - black rat
>>>> Pantherophis obsoletus quadrivittatus - yellow rat
>>>> Pantherophis obsoletus spiloides - gray rat
>>>> Pantherophis obsoletus rossalleni - everglades rat
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>>>>Brian
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>>>>>>Pantherophis guttata emoryi , subspecies of corn snake...for now.
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>>Brian, I agree with the femminine
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>>Pantherophis guttatus but I do not believe the emoryi is classified as guttatus any longer. like Darrin said I am pretty sure it is simply Pantherophis emoryi
>>or Pantherophis slowinski
>>without the guttatus
>>and corns are simply Pantherophis guttatus
>>I could easily be wrong but this is how I understood the changes.
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>>Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
>>"resistance is futile"
>>Jimmy (draybar)
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>> Draybars Snakes
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RATS
1.0 Corn snake "Warpath"(KY locale)
1.0 Black rat snake "Havok" (KY locale)
1.1 Black rat snakes "Reaper and Mystique" (MO locale)
1.0 Albino Black rat snake "Malakai" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Everglades rat snake "Deadpool" (Dwight Good stock)
0.1 Greenish rat snake "Rogue" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Great plains rat snake "Reign Fire" (TX locale)
1.0 Grey rat snake "Punisher" (White oak phase)(Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Yellow rat snake "Wolverine" (Dwight Good stock)
RACERS
1.0 Eastern Yellow Belly racer "Nightcrawler" (MO locale)
KINGS
1.1 California king snake "Bandit" & "Moonstar" (Coastal phase)
1.1 Prairie king snakes "Bishop" & "Askani" (KY locale)
0.1 Black king snake "Domino" (KY locale)
0.1 Desert Kingsnake "Psylocke"
0.1 Florida Kingsnake "Shard"
0.1 Speckled Kingsnake "Haven" (MO locale)
2.0 Eastern kings
MILKS
2.0 Eastern/red Milk intergrade "Cable" and "Omega Red" (KY locale)
BULLS/GOPHERS/PINES
0.1 Sonoran Gopher "Husk"
1.0 Kankakee bull (Phil Peak stock)
Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian
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RE: Pantherophis guttata emoryi or ??? - Hotshot, Wed Apr 12 19:40:02 2006