to Jeremy about not only the Hypo Motley breedings he did, but about his Pearl as well.

The breedings Jeremy did were with the Salmon line. The Salmon Motleys DID NOT have classic Motley pattern, but it was obvious they were Motleys. They had the striping on their sides, the belly characteristics, the tail stripe, and connected saddles. The saddles just were not where they should be or shaped like they should be. It was more of a stretched out pattern (best descriptor in words without pictures I can think of).

I DO NOT think that Celia's litter was the result of the Motley male, if it was, it was only partial. There are no babies that are Motley in that litter.

I am not sure exactly what you were looking for in your first post. I assume you were looking for my opinion on the Motley X hypo litter of Celia's.

I posted below, this is taken from that post:
is that the babies were the result of old sperm from the Jungle last season. The Y chromosome sperm may have been weaker, and not have done its job. This account for the slugs. The X chromosome sperm is stronger and resulted in all female offspring.

Because the Hypos look like Jungles, and there are What appear to be Jungles and definately Normals present I do not think Parthenogenisis is the case, I could be wrong though.

I do think something happened to the stored sperm that caused the Pattern change.
In fact, here is an idea that just came to me.
Pattern anomolies have been attributed to change in the environment (temperature) during pregnancy. What if the change in temperature your Hypo female experienced during the rest of the year affected the Sperm? We also KNOW that high temperatures decrease fertility, so the sperm she had stored was likely destroyed (Y) or affected in another way (X).

One of the people I work with has a Macaw and she said they had a chromosome analysis done to find out its sex. DNA is present in blood, so I imagine a viable blood sample from the slugs could give you this information.

There is one problem I could see. Are slugs JUST OVA, or were they improperly fertilized and died EARLY? If they were at one point fertilized ova (even if the sperm was bad) then my theory might work. If they are only bad OVA then this will not work, as they do not have the chromosome pairs from the sperm

On the Pearl. I do not know much. I do know it died of an (at the time) unknown cause. I believe it was a RANDOM mutation.
Jeremy had given me a little information, but I don't recall it. If you give him a call I am sure he will help you out with what you are looking for. Also, email him for some pictures of his Salmon Motleys.

Sorry, if I didn't give you the answer you were looking for.

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