I do not think any of the new lines of "Fires" have produced Lucies. I called my possible Fires, Embers, to stay on the Fire theme, but will not call them Fires until they do produce a Black eyed Lucy. As for what others call theirs, it is up to them. I see people calling wc snakes YB's without ever proving them with an Ivory. I see people calling wc snakes Fires without ever proving them with a Lucy. I personally will not call the Embers a line of Fire until I prove them out, but the similarity is there for sure. I have had people tell me the adult female that laid the Ember Eggs is a Fire no two ways about it. Like I said in my first response up above, with Fires, YB's, Axanthics, before "I" would sell any animal that is not an Albino, and obvious as to what it is, I would breed it out. The Embers ARE genetic, I just do not know if/what, the Super will be. Some others may think they are experts and call a wc animal an Axanthic, Fire, or Yb without proving it out, that is up to them, IT IS THEIR snake. Do I agree with calling a newly imported animal a proven morph, no, and as soon as someone sells a wc Yellowbelly as a Yellowbelly and it does NOT prove out, we will hear about it, same thing with a Fire, and then we will have this discussion all over again. So, what do you think of these pics?



Dave

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