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You are reaching for a defense arent you

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Posted by: SHvar at Sun May 14 09:59:26 2006   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by SHvar ]  
   

The way I worded it, "pitbulls of all breeds" was for your information so I didnt have to list APBT, Amstaff, staff, ABT, etc, etc, etc. Adding words to whats there does not make it untrue or against what was said. This was a REAL study into bite force, those in the past with the figures of 650lbs for one breed, and 750 for another, and 1500 for some pitbulls were all a load of crap, the actual figures stand as 300 and 320, all dogs have the same skull structure, size of the jaws in dogs has proven to help in leverage.
As far as a single tooth hole from a dog penetrating and causing blood loss, this is common sense, get bitten by a house cat once, not a playful bite, but a serious bite, their teeth are alot sharper, and can do more damage, I wouldnt compare bite force between them though. A monitors jaws are designed to produce high bite forces, no mammal can compare to them at any similar size, period.
By the way, if you were bit by a 3ft mangrove in reality, and say that it doesnt hurt as bad as a similar sized dog or compare it to a dog thats alot larger, you are comparing apples to fudge pops. I can compare multiple dog bites from German shepards and others (mostly smaller breeds)to my experiences with monitor bites from niles (1-5ft), timors (24-30 inches), albigs (18-54 inches), water monitors (3-4ft), flavi-argus (4ft), bosc (5-48 inches), a mangrove (3ft),and a few others. I can tell you that the flavi-argus bite was stronger than any dog bite Ive recieved (feels like a pair of vice-grips smashing your flesh, also as far as teeth go, the flavi-argus teeth at that size are about 1/3rd inch in length, double edged, like a knife. The description you gave of the mangrove seems as if you were bit by a hatchling, they have the needle like insect eating teeth when hatchlings. Many large species can do serious damage when bitten, from breaking bones, to taking away chunks of flesh. Make a comparison with similar sized jaws, I have fed a large bone in halves to a medium sized dog and a large albig, allow them to bite and chew the bone, see what happens. I can tell you that the same sized, thickness bone, will crack instantly in the albigs jaws, like it was cut with a bolt cutter. the dog will be chewing for a while.
So, to compare a similar feat of bringing prey down, a pack of dogs to a single komodo, similar prey items, deer, etc. Once the komodo gets a grip on the prey item its not long for this world, they do not have to rely on many many bites, lots of blood flow, and tiring the prey down for hours and or days, of course komodos do not get a solid grip in some cases and the prey gets away. Also think about it, on the islands where komodos reside there are many many dogs, all medium or better sized working dogs, they have been a prey source ever since they arrived, never are the tables turned.
The 2 animals hunt with different techniques, most times different prey, and have many other adaptations to help them, comparisons must be made that have a similar basis.


   

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