I am sorry. I misunderstood. You see, sometimes pitbull is used to mean a mean dog and I thought when you said "pitbulls of all breeds", you meant mean dogs of all breeds. It was my mistake.
I have to disagree that all dogs have the same skull structure still though. I can hardly imagine that the skull structure of a whipit is similar to that of a pug. If you mean that they dont have any extra bones, I am aware of that.
Let's not forget that 300-320 is an average, and there is surely quite a difference in bit force between a German Sheapard and a Chihuahua. It is not necesarrily even a middle of the road measurement. With an average, if there are more breeds of small dogs, then the bite force average will be about the same biteforce as a small dog.
Also,I never said that dogs have a 600 or 1500 pound bite force.
I would need to see stats to believe that a monitor can bite harder than a dog.
I know that a three and a half foot monitor does not have a hard bite compared to a dog. That is my point. I don't know how to prove to you that I was bitten by a 3.5 fool mangrove. Frankly, I don't care to. It was embarrasing. I should have gripped it better.
But if you are going to say that you dont believe I was bit by one, then I'll just say I deffinately do not believe that you have been bitten by many dogs. I'm not talking about getting mouther or a teathing puppy biting your arm. I'm talking about serious bites. I myself have only been bitten like that 3 times. I have been mouthed and bitten by teething puppies too many times to count.
If you have been bitten by all the montiors that you are saying you have, you must have a lot of deep and nasty scars. Got any pics? And it might be wise to take some precautions. Have you considered selling them to someone who can handle them a little better. Having a monitor is not worth getting seriously injured. A tame captive bred animal would cost a little more, but you wont need stictches if you treat it with respect.
I am aware that monitors can do lots of damage with their bites. I only ever said that they are less dangerous than dogs. I believe that a dog can do more damage than a monitor. I'll bet they can run faster, longer, jump higher, and have more damaging bites.
I agree that a komodo is more dangerous than a dog. I am talking about pets here.
I would never make a monitor bite down on a large bone. Proving this is not worth damaging its teeth. And I have never seen a dog bite down with full force on a bone. They seem to enjoy nawing it.
"no mammal can compare to them at any similar size, period." seriously rethink this statment. I know you probably only meant dogs, but it sounds like you are saying there is litterally not amammal in the world that can bite harder than a monitor. Keep in mind that big cats are mammals.


"The way I worded it, "pitbulls of all breeds" was for your information so I didnt have to list APBT, Amstaff, staff, ABT, etc, etc, etc. Adding words to whats there does not make it untrue or against what was said. This was a REAL study into bite force, those in the past with the figures of 650lbs for one breed, and 750 for another, and 1500 for some pitbulls were all a load of crap, the actual figures stand as 300 and 320, all dogs have the same skull structure, size of the jaws in dogs has proven to help in leverage.
As far as a single tooth hole from a dog penetrating and causing blood loss, this is common sense, get bitten by a house cat once, not a playful bite, but a serious bite, their teeth are alot sharper, and can do more damage, I wouldnt compare bite force between them though. A monitors jaws are designed to produce high bite forces, no mammal can compare to them at any similar size, period.
By the way, if you were bit by a 3ft mangrove in reality, and say that it doesnt hurt as bad as a similar sized dog or compare it to a dog thats alot larger, you are comparing apples to fudge pops. I can compare multiple dog bites from German shepards and others (mostly smaller breeds)to my experiences with monitor bites from niles (1-5ft), timors (24-30 inches), albigs (18-54 inches), water monitors (3-4ft), flavi-argus (4ft), bosc (5-48 inches), a mangrove (3ft),and a few others. I can tell you that the flavi-argus bite was stronger than any dog bite Ive recieved (feels like a pair of vice-grips smashing your flesh, also as far as teeth go, the flavi-argus teeth at that size are about 1/3rd inch in length, double edged, like a knife. The description you gave of the mangrove seems as if you were bit by a hatchling, they have the needle like insect eating teeth when hatchlings. Many large species can do serious damage when bitten, from breaking bones, to taking away chunks of flesh. Make a comparison with similar sized jaws, I have fed a large bone in halves to a medium sized dog and a large albig, allow them to bite and chew the bone, see what happens. I can tell you that the same sized, thickness bone, will crack instantly in the albigs jaws, like it was cut with a bolt cutter. the dog will be chewing for a while.
So, to compare a similar feat of bringing prey down, a pack of dogs to a single komodo, similar prey items, deer, etc. Once the komodo gets a grip on the prey item its not long for this world, they do not have to rely on many many bites, lots of blood flow, and tiring the prey down for hours and or days, of course komodos do not get a solid grip in some cases and the prey gets away. Also think about it, on the islands where komodos reside there are many many dogs, all medium or better sized working dogs, they have been a prey source ever since they arrived, never are the tables turned.
The 2 animals hunt with different techniques, most times different prey, and have many other adaptations to help them, comparisons must be made that have a similar basis."

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