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FR
at Thu May 18 12:46:47 2006 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]
Yes, results is what its about. And if your keeping score, the results are no different then many. Lots of eggs and few if any neonates. Please do not say its not about breeding, if it wasn't the person in question would not seek sexual pairs, he would not provide nesting, he would not put opposite sexes together. His approach is and has been to breed them. That is not so hard to see. To breed them means to recieve babies, not eggs.
Many of you then say, but hes working with prasinus. Well, there are many many people who have captive bred and hatched prasinus type monitors, there are several that have taken them thru generations.
In an interview with me by the founder of Vivarium Mag, in the mid ninties(Goannaman speaks)(he named me that, not I), I stated that monitors were the easist reptile I ever bred, but not the easist to actually hatch eggs(recieve neonates) This indicates even a decade ago, that recieving eggs is easy and common, and this is with all species of monitors.
If you watch forums, you will see many many keepers recieve eggs, but only a small percentage hatch them. Sir, that is were the techniques and methods become important. At least to the next level of expertise.
There are many keepers who have no problem breeding and hatching many species of monitors. There are several in Europe that breed and hatch what ever they decide to work with.
I have also bred and hatched what ever I decided to work with. The really nice part of this is, we are suppose be able to work with what we want. In all cases, the husbandry and techniques were very similar. The main difference has been size of cages, not some magical technique.
The key importance is prolonged diligence. You really have to stay with it.
If this fella stays with it and takes the responsibility for his errors, then decides to learn from those errors, he will progress and become very successful with lots of results. But until that time, hes all talk and mostly about people.
If I were to analize the differences between him and many academics, compared to my approach. I would say the fundamental difference is, he and the academics take more importance with the written word and more importantly, the authors, then they do the subject, the monitors.
I on the otherhand take the subject as the most important and all written words and authors, including myself, as second or much farther down the list, depending on what we are thinking and saying. Not much difference, but enough to make all the difference in recieved results.
Again, the subject is monitors. In the case of this forum, its about reallife monitors. Its not about theory and supposition on monitors, which is clearly what academics are interested in, and they are welcome to it. At least the ones how argue or discuss papers and theories over results. I hope you understand, no matter what you call yourself, if you take forumla and theory over hardcore repeatable results, you are not being very scientific or "a biologist" as first and foremost, they are taught to seek "repeatable results" to validate theories and forumlas. To think in terms of absolute right and wrong is totally naive, no worse(put your own word here).
This goes back to this discussion, the person in question, has repeatedly recieved eggs, so far so good, but has shown a near complete pattern of failure to hatch eggs. This is fact. This is common with keeping monitors of all species. Most keepers that recieve ackie eggs fail to hatch most, most keepers that recieve Kimberly eggs, fail to hatch them, Most people who recieve Sav eggs and many do, fail to hatch them. A person immediately before him did the same, only he hatched a couple more. Nothing new here.
This is reality. Ask around instead of picking sides. Cheers
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RE: I am not sure you should go there. - FR, Thu May 18 12:46:47 2006