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RE: lele...ivermectin

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Posted by: eric adrignola at Fri May 19 07:55:35 2006   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by eric adrignola ]  
   

A friend of mine in PA used to use ivermectin quite often to reat filarial

worms, and other, fendbedazol resistant worms. He had very good

luck with it, in fact.



One very BIG and EXTREMELY IMPORTANT factor was th

emethods he used to treat the chameleons.



Ivermectin, if given to an animal with heavy parasite infection, will kill it

most of the time. The ivermectin will kill off almost all the worms

quickly. The chameleon will usually not be able to cope with the

resulting infections caused by the dead parasites in it's body. Just about

very time a WC chameleon was given ivermectin FIRST, it died.



In proper doese, the drug is not deadly - the side affects can be.



The only effective use of ivermectin was to use it last, as a final parasite

treatment, after all other drugs were used.



Pete was very successful at acclimating and treating melleri, which are

one of the most parasite ridden, difficult to acclimate species. He of

course hydrated them well and fed them well. First, he treated them

with "megadoses of panacur", over a period of several weeks. Every

treatment would cause a swelling in the throat, similar to a gular edema,

as the large worms in that region would die off. Treatment would

continue until the post-treatment swelling did not result.



After all fendbedazol (panacur) sensitive worms were killed off, he

woudl treat for protozoan parasites, or coccidia if necessary, then

tapeworms.



Only after everything else was killed off, and the animal recovering from

treatment, did he test for and treat for microfiliaria. If present in the

blood ( and they usually were), he'd treat with ivermectin.



On a related not, my local herp vet, when JUST starting out, used to

routienly treat all chameleons with panacur, flagyl, and ivermectin - all at

once. He had a remarkable low death rate. He dispute my claim that

ivermectin woudl kill animals due to the parasite load, as he never saw

it happen. When I informed him that all the calyptratus he was treating

were CB's, and probably devoid of most parasites, he understood.



The fact that it didnt' kill the calyptratus, which had few, if any

parasites, was interesting.



I think Pete had a good system. The animals have to be healthy, and

they have to have a VERY low parasite load, if they are to survive

ivermectn treatment.



Ivermectin kills turtles, though... be careful.


   

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