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LarryF
at Mon May 29 11:09:34 2006 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by LarryF ]
>>Uh...Larry, in the case of observable phenominom in the wild one does not take the observers word as "scientific proof". Otherwise the existence of Yeti's and the Lochness Monster would be considered Fact.
Let me try a different approach. This could easily sound insulting, but please don't take it that way. I'm speaking from the point of view of the people involved.
No one of any significance is disputing that there are burmese breeding in the everglades. People all over the state own burms in large numbers, a significant portion of which are NOT plain brown, normal pattern burms. Occasional stray burms are found all over the place, but HUNDREDS of them are found in one suitable area in the extreme south end of the state. Unless your theory is that hundreds of people are driving hundreds of miles to dump ONLY NORMAL PHASE BURMS in this one area and no other or that breeders or importers are losing hundreds of ONLY NORMAL BURMS only in this area then I'm not sure what you're thinking. If you realy believe that the park service (not just the biologists) is faking documentation of the finds and state wildlife officers AND civilians are getting burms from somewhere else and bringing them to our refuge and telling us they found them just outside the park then I don't know what to tell you.
Unless you assume this vast conspiracy, then by far, the most obvious answer is that they are breeding there. It isn't the biologists job to prove to a couple of guys on the internet that they exist. Their job is to find out where they are so they can be eradicated. If they were shooting for a nobel prize or even to get a paper published then maybe absolute proof would be required. That's no their job.
To date, no one has brought me a Yeti in a trash can, and if they did I'd probably be willing to take their word about where they found it instead of demanding pictures...
>>Burms guard their nests...I know that. Now tell me how Burms could defend their nests against thousands of ants?
Again, I said very clearly that insects would get some of the nests (I implied as high as 90%). I've been to the general area, I covered easily several acres and was not attacked by fire ants. They are not on every square foot of land. I even have pictures with no fire ants in them... 
>>Note as someone pointed out.
Actually, that was me.
>>Gators have hard shelled eggs.
Which fire ants don't seem to have much trouble chewing through. They also seem to be well known to set up camp in alligator nests and get the babies as they hatch. But then, I haven't seen any pictures so maybe everyone's making it up. 
>>As gators are the native species this arguement is just ridiculous.
I'm not sure I follow which argument you think that's a problem for... Exostic species quite often do far BETTER than the natives. Seen many green anoles recently?
>>I have seen gators and their nests in the wild thousands of times. I have touched them, eaten their meat, collected their fossils...wrong person to try this on.
Try what, facts?
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