Ken if you look at its back bone(i guess that is what that thing down the middle is) it is completely worn down. If you look at the male it is still showing. Now the guy who took this pic found it next to a cedar swamp. So... maybe it is stained from the water...but I doubt it has spent enough time in there for that to happen. As for northern boxies being orange and southern jersey being yellow I haven't found that to be totally true. I have seen every shade of orange, red, and yellow down here. If you look at one of my previous posts I found a two burnt orange females, one yellow orange, and one yellow female with red legs all in the same 300 yard area. Ken, when you went out did you find alot of raided nests. I counted close to 20 today, most appeared to be boxie nest unfortunately.

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