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Type I & Type II not compatible? (Pics)

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Posted by: Stav at Tue Jun 27 00:18:08 2006   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Stav ]  
   

Hi from Montreal Canada ,

I got this litter from a LTC central female that was originaly imported here in Canada by a well known Importer in Montreal in a mexican shipement à long time ago. I got her last year from a friend that agreed to sell it to me ( Simon Hamelin ) , he got it from ( Martin Tremblay ) who had it with ( Hector Vandorn R.I.P ) who got it from the Importer in Montreal.

I thought I would give her try , Martin T bred it to a colombian and she gave 14 normal babies.

Well , she gave 19 babies with me this year 15 normals , 1 anery , 2 salmons and one Ghost ( my view ) about a month ago....

She went with an adult het ghost I got in 2005 from Jeremy Stone ( the only true penetration i've seen and i'm glad he bred.... Jeremy, when you say a snake is a breeder it really is one and same things for genetics ! Thanks alot for selling it to me with the possible dom. yellowish one.... he still is Gorgeous and puts more and more yellow in him ! ) Before the het anery she went with an albino , with a super salmon , and the possible super the second from Jeremy ....

Hopefully some of the babies ( the 15 normals ) got some albino genetics in them. It happend with a clutch of Normal X Spider X Pastel Balls and there was both pastels and spiders in the clutch that Simon Hamelin did last year with our spider .....

I totaly didint get the due date right.... She gave birth at 167 days P.O.S which is impossible. I saw true penetration about 3 weeks a month after P.O.S with the het anery ( after all the others males were finished ) and it is the only "true" penetration I saw.

All the "morphs" that came out , the anery, the ghost and the 2 salmons had huge sacs. The ghost had even a tight knot ( as you can see on pics ) around his belly and I had to cut the ombelical cord which was way to big for cutting at that point to set it free from the sac. All the 15 others had normal digested sacs with only thin ombelical cords as in normal litters that did their time and came out after a normal period of incubation.

This and the miscalculated due date ,is why I think that the albino got to fertilise some follicules before the het ghost. Probably a double ovulation or maybe some unfertilised ova that remained unfertilised that were still ok for fertilisation who know's..... If the Super Salmon , or the possible super fertilised I would have had around 1/2 salmons in that litter....

Is there any opinions on this ? I thought the two types were not compatible ?????

Here is a pic of that litter .



Here's another one were you can clearely see the knot around the ghost .....


The ghost again on the mother , with a beer bottle for size comparison ....


The female just before parturition....


The anery died shortly after , I also took some pics of it even dead , I'll post some.... The Ghost didint shed yet I thought loosing it but is doing better now giving him water with a seringe and his first pinky.... I'll take pics of this one too , soon ....

Thanks,
Stav


   

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