The way I read it - you have to have a hobbyist permit to breed *any* native california herptile, wether WC or not. The permit for the hobbyist is pretty cheap - I think ~ $40.00 or so.

Looking at the permit info, at least with the hobbyist permit, you are not permitted to breed more than three species, and any specimens received "on loan" count towards your bag limit (and have to be documented with fish and game) which means that for the two snakes to get together, one has to be on loan from someone else.

If you catch a gravid female, you have 45 days after hatching to find homes for them and reduce your population back down to the bag limit (1 in the case of Lampropeltus Zonata).

I'm actually writing a list of questions on things that are unclear to me. I'm hoping that someone at Fish and Game will be willing to do a recorded Q&A session, with permission to distribute the results as a podcast. There's a lot of things I have questions about.

For example, my femal Cal. King is CB - I bought it from someone in Alaska. Does she count towards my bag limit?

Say I catch a L. Zonata that is gravid. 45 days may not be long enough to find proper homes for all of the young because they need to be taking pinkies w/o lizard scenting them first. Would I be in violation if I wanted to do the right thing - and make sure each baby takes f/t pinkies w/o any tricks for at least three consecutive feedings? If feeding once a week, that doesn't give a lot of time once they start taking pinkies.

I also want a clear cut answer as to whether or not I can purchase a L. Zonata from an out of state breeder. I could not find anything on that. That would be my preference if possible.

Anyway - I'm hoping to get some of the questions I have cleared up, and it would be great if someone from F&G would be willing to do so in a question/answer session that could be shared.
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3.0 WC; 0.1 CB L. getula californiae
0.1 CB L. pyromelana pyromelana
0.1 WC Elgaria multicarinata multicarinata (gravid)

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