If conditions are met fairly well as FR always states,who cares(he doesn't say that)?I did. My Monitors never scratched anything or wanted to get out because I let them out as much as they wanted to(I thought).Carpet,Vinyl it doesn't matter as long a they can exercise(not really good for them).I know, give them 3 feet of dirt and perfect temps are good,but who needs(or can)give them 200lbs of dirt in the house and no a/c.Just a view into reality.Most of us fail and I myself after 20 years of trying to be a decent monitor guy,can't take the failure because I actually love them as living creatures and feel totally responsible for their deaths.It's a great hobby if you don't care or want to treat them as well as cats or dogs or have better luck(skill) than me.I personally can't try to help pet shop dying monitors and not actually help them live.I take it personally everytime.I wish I didn't care but I do and it always hurts and I can't take it.Better luck to peeps who don't care like me Think first before buying that $20 Sav.Life id good for some.

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• Enclosure material question - ritt, Tue Jul 4 20:53:27 2006
• RE: Enclosure material question - FR, Wed Jul 5 09:08:03 2006
• RE: Enclosure material question - ritt, Wed Jul 5 20:49:45 2006
• RE: Enclosure material question RANT! - BRG, Wed Jul 5 17:52:22 2006
• RE: The solution to your problem - FR, Wed Jul 5 18:26:04 2006