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aspidites
at Tue Aug 1 18:54:31 2006 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by aspidites ]
**No, of course I am in no way offended. Even when I see the occasional post stating that I "only produce worthless trash mutts" I am not offended. Beauty and to an equal extent, value, are in the eye of the beholder. I know people that think lamborginis are ugly. It's all relative. Also, no matter how many people may not find what I produce attractive, there are a hundred times more that think they are the best looking morphs they have ever seen. The folks that find unique beauty in these FAR outnumber the occasional person that finds only ugliness.**
I am glad you are not offended. And I realize about beauty in the eye of the beholder. Perhaps you misunderstand. In no way do I think that what you have produced is ugly. They are very nice. But the 'best looking morphs they have ever seen' - come on! I've seen a lot of animals and morphs and I would be hard pressed to pick one that is the best. All are unique in their own rights. Also, I realize you are trying to embellish here, but are you really saying that you have been contacted by 'hundreds' of people who state they are the best looking morphs they've ever seen? Let me say again that they are not ugly, just not remarkably unique. Place your pic next to a pic of a labyrinth and looking for differences would be like a 'Where's Waldo' instead oo looking for an elephant in a room full of ants.
**I appreciate your comments and they were all very well put and very eloquent. I think more importantly that *what* is said is *how* it is said, that makes all the difference. **
Good, I hate to degrade to insults and the like. We are all people that enjoy our hobby.
**Also, no offense intended back to you in any way, but maybe you should try producing some 50/50 albino hybrids before you suggest the best way to do it. I get well-intended advice all the time from folks that have never even bred a single snake (not implying anything by this. I don't know you and maybe you breed hundreds of snakes each year) but it's just mind boggling. How does a person give advice on something they have never done and have no experience doing? **
I realize you don't know me and I don't take offense. A lot of the way I approached critiquing you was so that you would believe that I had some knowledge. I have bred hybrids for many years, although I consider myself in no way a pioneer. I wrote the first published article on hybrids in the 90s, but hybridizations were going on in the seventies, so that is nothing new. Also I was the first to prove that Corn and King amels were allelic. So what I am saying is that I have produced A LOT of 50/50 amel hybrids and pride myself on all of my hybrids being as evenly blooded as possible, i.e. - 50/50, 25/25/25/25, 12.5/12.5, etc. Putting a lot of 75% hybrids on the market honestly does muddy the breeding pool. Sure, you get more amels faster, but they are not as unique. As honest as I want to be about my hybrids to people, I have actually had someone say - hey I love that king you sold me, what was it again? - YEARS later when I don't have any idea what they bought from me and have to try to identify a picture of a hybrid, only to find out that they sold the rest of the group they bought as a pure blooded this or that. I realize we are talking about personal responsibility here, but my main point is that a 75% hybrid it TOO identical to the parent with the greatest blood. I'VE SEEN IT! So wouldn't it be much easier just to keep the animals 50/50 down the entire line than worry about backcrosses? Actually, I even believe that a backcross is worse than if you took a 50/50 and bred it to a 100% of a completely different species. At least then you wouldn't have opened up the pandora's box of confusion.
**Just like when I read posts about that "typical rock attitude" from a poster that never even owned a rock, or posters that may have owned one imported specimen that was scared and bit up their arm. **
You get no arguement from me on this. I think this is beside the point. Who cares what the temperament is of a snake if we are talking about aesthetic beauty. Amel cobras are beautiful, but I wouldn't take them dancing.
Cheers,
GLENN
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RE: Out of the egg! *Pics!* - aspidites, Tue Aug 1 18:54:31 2006