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RE: But sir, thats exactly the point

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Posted by: FR at Wed Aug 2 12:27:34 2006   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]  
   

They do live in organized comumities. The adult breeder pair up, the non breeders do not, the young live in groups and grow up together. They organize and gather for reasons other then copulation.



The point of all this is simple, you do not understand or look deep enough to see the indications that this is so. You do not look(research)deep enough in the field, neonates hang out together, I hope you know that. I am sure you don't. I am sure you do not know anything about baby monitors. My bet is, you see very few of them. How many babies are hatched a year in your area? compare that to how many you see. Now how does what you see, represent what they do? have you seen anything other then an occasional wandering baby? Sir, if you see a thousand babies in nature a year, and they are random. I would agree with you. But if you see a thousand and they are in groups. A group is not a sack or box. A group is monitors within walking and sight distance of eachother. Same as with all other social animals.



Ants are a great example. You surely can find an ant here and there, one all by itself, but if you look deeper, you can find a trail of ants, and if you look farther, a ant hole and a colony of ants. This is the same with monitors, you see the lone monitor, but do not look deep enough to see where that leads.



Sir, I really do not know what you have seen, I can only think this because of what you say. You should not get mad at me. But get mad you yourself and LOOK DEEPER, which I suppose is called to RESEARCH.



You do not allow then to make choices in captivity. My guess is, you understand so little about them, you are to busy barely keeping them alive(meeting basic husbandry).



So yes, I understand, what you have not seen, but please do not think all people are YOU.



These varanids do organize, they do group and segregate. They preform many of the events that are included in being soical. They also display many of these social appearing abilities, Where do they get them? Do they make them up? your so very foolish and unscientific if you think they can simply make them up. Sir, that is wrong, and science will stand behind me on this. An animal cannot make up new behaviors. You simply do not understand the animal.



All in all, I am glad you do not have the foggist idea what monitors are, it gives you lots to do in the future.



Lastly I do understand, you can make up and use any definition you like, so can I, I say ants are not social because they do not think and only work on instint. Therefore, they are programed. Its not a choice. hmmmmmmmmmm then nothing is social but humans. Cheers
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