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RE: Your welcome to believe whatever

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Posted by: FR at Thu Aug 10 09:37:33 2006   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]  
   

but one thing really bothers me with your comments. Your god comment is totally out of line and very disheartening.



I have to ask, how on earth would having reptile experience, and being good at something like breeding reptiles be equated to being a GOD? Sir, that comment reflects your insecurity.



I would think mainly young kids would erroneously place a person on a pedestal for being good at something. Sir, you saying that is a respect loser for you.



You mentioned kingsnakes, if you know my history with that type of reptile, then you must know that I have and had, lots of friends and peers that were excellent keepers. Some of those keepers, much like myself, would successfully keep anything we set our minds and energys on. Some of those folks are in the NW. The main reason I ventured into varanids and they did not is, hmmmmmmmm I had space. Wow, that surely makes me a god!



What is surprising to me is, how does a decent keeper with other reptiles(myself) come over to varanids, and be instantly super successful? In my first six months of varanid keeping, I ended up with over a hundred eggs in the incubator. Sir, that means, I did not learn this trade with the monitors, I learned it with other reptiles. I simply adjusted my experience to fit monitors. That does not take a GOD.



As I have said, time and time again, I am not a varanphile or whatever. And I do not want to be one, as in my opinion, this is one weird bunch. I perfer the company of my peers, that are all success with reptiles, I am just one of the guys. Ask them. Its only in this backward varanid world, that I am seperated from the pack. That does not speak of me being special, but of others not doing their job.



Sir, once I was asked to critique a reptile department(yes, they supplied an editor)hahahahahahahahaha. One paragraph said this. "success, spawns success? it creates interest and keeps the people in the department, on the same page and working as a team. It keeps them moving in a positive direction". I also said, failure in the same way, creates more failure. After a while, instead of looking for ways to succeed, the keepers look for ways to protect themselves and not accept blame.



I believe in a nutshell, this is what happened to the monitor world. Failure caused varaphiles to seek excuses for their failures, instead of looking for ways to succeed. So as you see with these fine gentlemen, instead of offering methods to succeed, they only offer methods to fail.



A great keeper from the NW once expressed a very useful way to look at keeping reptiles. Failure is not a snake or any reptile dying or laying bad eggs or eating eachother. Failure is you giving up. So, is he the GOD????????? Ernie(pooh)Wagner, the reptile God. In a way yes he is. As he is the one who spawned the other great NW reptile keepers. Ok, hes only a regional god.



Then a Fla. reptile breeder of condros and other pythons, came up to me at a show and said, Hey Frank, do you know why we are so good at this???? I gave him a puzzled look and said, no why? He said, because we are both to dumb to know when to give up. hahahahahahahahahahaha I laughted and thought to myself, how right he is. Is he a god too?



One of my BIG detractors on monitors, started this war because I was asked to give a talk a varanid sym. Then after the talks I went off with my longtime snake friends instead of with them and their group of varaphiles. How petty is that? I have my own friends and I was staying at their house. I did not know any of these varanid fellas, not a single one.



My friends like all reptiles, not just one kind. How silly is liking one kind of reptile, no wonder they are so backward. Cheers


   

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