The problem is, I have listened to them. This battle has been going on for several years.

Jason, I have a feeling you have fallen for their propaganda, I do not dislike science, or academia. Its only these few people that do not practice science, but use the name of science, that bother me.

Simply put, When is the lack of data, become data????? The lack of data is always a lack of data. The lack of data does not lead to real events, it leads to assumptions. Which they are full of.

What bothers me is, they come here, were there are people doing pretty well. And stay all this and that, taken from their lack of data. Sir, taken from assumptions. They do not know what monitors are doing, they assume what monitors are doing. The point is, they have shown a distint lack of husbandry experience. And a distint lack of taking any information from their field work and applying it to captives. In fact, they not done much to nothing with captives. Yet, they come and say we are all wrong. Dude, thats not about science. Thats about human behavior(not the good ones either)

Again, they are welcome to believe anything they want about wild monitors, no skin off my elbow. But why do they say I'am wrong about this and that and everything varanid. Yet do not offer one tiny bit of advice or any successful options to consider. All I hear is, your wrong. Telling me I am wrong is absolutely of no benefit. Showing me or others a better way would be of great benefit. Or even a way thats equal in results but is easier to do. Something of benetif.

Sir, what they offer has been written in old petshop books twenty years ago. Most is useless, some is harmful, but none is up to date. That is, up to date with monitors actually doing something.

Whats funny is, most of us used those old recomendations, and moved on to something better.

Jason, can't you see, they have offered nothing. In the last few days, I posted more varanid success then they have had in their collective lifes. Thats not bragging, thats a reflection on them. And truely its OK for them to not be good in this field, the actual keeping and breeding of monitors. But why do they feel the need to attack me, and I am successful. Sir, that is the question of the day?

So sir, take your question about me, and ask them. Ask why do they attack the methods of someone far far more successful then them?? Jason, it is a good question.

And I forgive you, but please keep this about monitors. I do not think breeding reptiles makes me special. I have grandkids, they make me special. As least in their little eyes. Sir, that is something far more important then this crapola. Cheers

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