return to main index

  mobile - desktop
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter follow us on YouTube link to us on LinkedIn
 
Click here to visit Classifieds
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: Kingsnake Merch Store . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake returns to Tinley . . . . . . . . . .  kingsnake.com joins Monitor Brains! . . . . . . . . . .  Sneak Peek . . . . . . . . . .  Amphibian gut bacteria showing promise in cancer research . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Meet The Baroness - The world's longest snake . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Updates? . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  The mechanics behind the viper strike . . . . . . . . . .  Snakes on a Train? . . . . . . . . . .  Tracking the animals in the Florida Everglades - Meet the Croc Docs . . . . . . . . . .  Reintroduction attempts give San Francisco Garter a second chance . . . . . . . . . .  Promoting Reptiles is Our Jam Man . . . . . . . . . .  Origins of Chytrid discovered . . . . . . . . . .  Wisdom Wednesday - The Forums - The water is warm... Come on in! . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake.com Past, Present and Future . . . . . . . . . .  IHS Celebrates 50 years . . . . . . . . . .  End of January 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Fun Fact Friday - Green Tree Monitor . . . . . . . . . .  The Evolution of the Osteoderm discovered . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS Expo Jan 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Diamondback discovered in new Texas county for first time . . . . . . . . . .  Expo Setup . . . . . . . . . .  Reptiles greater than Golden Globes . . . . . . . . . .  Meander Monday . . . . . . . . . .  Update: Release mobile friendly!! . . . . . . . . . .  Reptile Super Show Pomona California . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS - Apr. 18-19, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - Apr 18, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - Apr 19, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - Apr 24, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - April 25, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Big Sky Reptile Expo - April 25-26, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - May 06, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  CRE - May 16-17, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - May 16, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - May 17, 2026 . . . . . . . . . . 

RE: Sir,

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Monitors ]

Posted by: FR at Thu Aug 10 17:18:44 2006   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]  
   

The problem is, I have listened to them. This battle has been going on for several years.



Jason, I have a feeling you have fallen for their propaganda, I do not dislike science, or academia. Its only these few people that do not practice science, but use the name of science, that bother me.



Simply put, When is the lack of data, become data????? The lack of data is always a lack of data. The lack of data does not lead to real events, it leads to assumptions. Which they are full of.



What bothers me is, they come here, were there are people doing pretty well. And stay all this and that, taken from their lack of data. Sir, taken from assumptions. They do not know what monitors are doing, they assume what monitors are doing. The point is, they have shown a distint lack of husbandry experience. And a distint lack of taking any information from their field work and applying it to captives. In fact, they not done much to nothing with captives. Yet, they come and say we are all wrong. Dude, thats not about science. Thats about human behavior(not the good ones either)



Again, they are welcome to believe anything they want about wild monitors, no skin off my elbow. But why do they say I'am wrong about this and that and everything varanid. Yet do not offer one tiny bit of advice or any successful options to consider. All I hear is, your wrong. Telling me I am wrong is absolutely of no benefit. Showing me or others a better way would be of great benefit. Or even a way thats equal in results but is easier to do. Something of benetif.



Sir, what they offer has been written in old petshop books twenty years ago. Most is useless, some is harmful, but none is up to date. That is, up to date with monitors actually doing something.



Whats funny is, most of us used those old recomendations, and moved on to something better.



Jason, can't you see, they have offered nothing. In the last few days, I posted more varanid success then they have had in their collective lifes. Thats not bragging, thats a reflection on them. And truely its OK for them to not be good in this field, the actual keeping and breeding of monitors. But why do they feel the need to attack me, and I am successful. Sir, that is the question of the day?



So sir, take your question about me, and ask them. Ask why do they attack the methods of someone far far more successful then them?? Jason, it is a good question.



And I forgive you, but please keep this about monitors. I do not think breeding reptiles makes me special. I have grandkids, they make me special. As least in their little eyes. Sir, that is something far more important then this crapola. Cheers


   

[ Hide Replies ]


>> Next topic:  A nesting comparison. - FR, Wed Aug 9 18:36:49 2006
<< Previous topic:  A lacie pic and baby ackie pic - FR, Wed Aug 9 14:59:39 2006

Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You Click here to visit Classifieds Click to visit Brass Man Reptiles
KINGSNAKE.COM

Enjoy all our content free of charge with a user account that gives you full access to every feature. For added visibility, paid options are available - post in our Classifieds, showcase your business with Banner Ads or a Directory listing, promote reptile events, and more.

Quick Links
Community
Legal & Safety
Support

Register for free ✓ Sign up!

Kingsnake.com ® is a registered trademark © 1997-