return to main index

  market - home
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter link to us on LinkedIn
International Reptile Conservation Foundation  
Click here to visit Classifieds
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: Heavy Metal Scorpion . . . . . . . . . .  How a python change the course of Attenbourgh's life . . . . . . . . . .  Make good choices . . . . . . . . . .  Burmese found on roadside in Wisconsin raises issues . . . . . . . . . .  Happy Earth Day . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake Merch Store . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake returns to Tinley . . . . . . . . . .  kingsnake.com joins Monitor Brains! . . . . . . . . . .  Sneak Peek . . . . . . . . . .  Amphibian gut bacteria showing promise in cancer research . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Meet The Baroness - The world's longest snake . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Updates? . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  The mechanics behind the viper strike . . . . . . . . . .  Snakes on a Train? . . . . . . . . . .  Tracking the animals in the Florida Everglades - Meet the Croc Docs . . . . . . . . . .  Reintroduction attempts give San Francisco Garter a second chance . . . . . . . . . .  Promoting Reptiles is Our Jam Man . . . . . . . . . .  Origins of Chytrid discovered . . . . . . . . . .  Wisdom Wednesday - The Forums - The water is warm... Come on in! . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake.com Past, Present and Future . . . . . . . . . .  IHS Celebrates 50 years . . . . . . . . . .  End of January 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Fun Fact Friday - Green Tree Monitor . . . . . . . . . .  The Evolution of the Osteoderm discovered . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS Expo Jan 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Diamondback discovered in new Texas county for first time . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - June 03, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  CRE - Jun. 20-21, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - June 20, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - June 21, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - June 26, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Tinley NARBC June - Jun 27-28 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - June 27, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - July 01, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Reptile Super Show & LA Pet Fair - July 11-12 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS - Jul. 11-12, 2026 . . . . . . . . . . 

more info on blotchless rats..

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Rat Snakes ]

Posted by: Dwight Good at Mon Aug 4 22:50:18 2003   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Dwight Good ]  
   

As Mike pointed out, these are crosses between black,yellow, and everglades rats. The original 'blotchless' animal was typical looking yellow/glades rat from south Florida. Click here for more info.



In addition, here is a quote from the 1996 Blue Chameleon Ventures (now CornUtopia) price list:



"BLOTCHLESS RATS Elaphe obsoleta ssp. A recessive trait discovered here in Everglades Rats in which the animals never have dorsal blotches, even as hatchlings! We developed this strain just to see what it looks like, especially as an albino..... Non-Albinos.....40.00 Albinos......... 55.00"



In 1997, Kathy changed the name of this cultivar from "Blotchless Rats" to Xanadu Rats.



Then on the 1998 CornUtopia price list is the following quote:



"WHATCHAMACALL'EM RATS Elaphe obsoleta ssp - A recessive trait discovered here in our Rat snake colony in which the animals never have dorsal blotches, even as hatchlings! We're playing with crossing this strain just to see what it looks like in different variations, including as an albino. Formerly called 'Blotchless Rats' and 'Xanadu Rats' on old lists, we renamed them a bit more creatively again this year to see if we can finally find one that inspires more interest. Kathy says they're really neat, but Bill can't think of a descriptive word to accurately convey his particular enthusiasm for the project. Must see to appreciate!

Albino specimens are .......... 75.00 Non-albinos are ..... 35.00



Subsequently, in 1999 CornUtopia renamed the morph again, to simply 'Striped Rats.'



This should give everyone a good idea as to the origins of this cultivar and how it has evolved over the years. I think its safe to say that Kathy and Bill Love are the ones we owe our gratitude for making these animals available in the pet trade. The albinos are beautiful! However, since they have stopped working with them (AFAIK) these animals will (have?) become increasingly harder to find, albinos and normals.



Here are some photos from my personal collection, although I am no longer working with the 'blotchless' strain. The animal pictured below is a normal phase blotchless animal I produced a few years ago:







As the normals mature, they begin to look like regular Everglades rats. The plain grey hatchling color intensifies into a bright orange. Here is an adult female:







In addition to my pics above, Travis G posted a photo of one of his normal blotchless animals in this post in the forum archives.



Hope this helps,
-----
Dwight Good

http://www.kingsnake.com/obsoleta


   

[ Hide Replies ]


>> Next topic:  trans pepcos and emoryi - tribbielvr, Mon Aug 4 15:55:54 2003
<< Previous topic:  my new baby !! - jimfmcdonald, Sun Aug 3 21:30:11 2003

Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You Click here to visit Classifieds Click for 65% off Shipping with Reptiles 2 You
KINGSNAKE.COM

Enjoy all our content free of charge with a user account that gives you full access to every feature. For added visibility, paid options are available - post in our Classifieds, showcase your business with Banner Ads or a Directory listing, promote reptile events, and more.

Quick Links
Community
Legal & Safety
Support

Register for free ✓ Sign up!

Kingsnake.com ® is a registered trademark © 1997-