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paalexan
at Sun Aug 10 14:45:35 2003 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by paalexan ]
`Since you cited Utiger et al., you should be familiar with their tree. Their findings show that all species formerly classified in Elaphe, together with the Lampropeltini, form a clade with Ptyas as the outgroup. How can a clade be polyphyletic?'
The clade isn't the group in question, Elaphe is.
`Where is the evidence of polyphyly?'
FWIW, Utiger et al. also cite Minton (1976), Lawson and Dessauer (1981), Dowling et al., and Dessauer et al. (1987) as having concluded that Elaphe is polyphyletic. I can give you the complete citations, if you want.
Patrick Alexander
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- Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Tue Aug 5 15:20:38 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Fri Aug 8 19:48:08 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sat Aug 9 18:35:21 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Aug 10 12:09:44 2003

RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Aug 10 14:45:35 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Mon Aug 11 06:46:54 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Mon Aug 11 13:03:04 2003

- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Mon Aug 11 18:39:41 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Mon Aug 11 23:10:39 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Mon Aug 11 23:12:29 2003
- Sorry about the double post. No changes in content between them. ~NP~ - paalexan, Mon Aug 11 23:13:57 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Tue Aug 12 00:36:58 2003

- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Tue Aug 12 05:19:31 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Tue Aug 12 05:32:50 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Tue Aug 12 11:48:08 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Tue Aug 12 18:10:16 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Tue Aug 12 18:25:24 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Wed Aug 13 01:12:02 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Wed Aug 13 01:54:51 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Wed Aug 13 02:09:40 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Wed Aug 13 08:59:13 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Wed Aug 13 09:14:49 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Wed Aug 13 21:35:06 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Wed Aug 13 22:00:23 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Wed Aug 13 22:17:50 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Wed Aug 13 22:21:06 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Wed Aug 13 22:40:01 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Wed Aug 13 22:53:13 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Wed Aug 13 23:36:35 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Thu Aug 14 13:48:59 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Thu Aug 14 14:14:15 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Thu Aug 14 14:37:05 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Thu Aug 14 14:52:04 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Thu Aug 14 14:53:36 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Aug 17 02:43:22 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Aug 17 05:22:14 2003

- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Aug 17 22:56:37 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Aug 17 23:24:09 2003
- BTW... - paalexan, Mon Aug 18 11:14:35 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Sep 21 09:48:50 2003

- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Sep 21 11:34:01 2003

- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Sep 21 12:14:10 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Sep 21 13:41:40 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Mon Sep 22 19:46:48 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Thu Sep 25 19:33:57 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sat Sep 27 16:08:57 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Sep 28 03:19:10 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Sep 28 03:22:40 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Sep 28 18:29:39 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Sep 28 22:02:37 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Oct 5 02:11:40 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Oct 5 03:54:01 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Oct 5 09:50:27 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Mon Dec 22 10:07:23 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Mon Dec 22 10:25:05 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Mon Dec 22 10:42:55 2003
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