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paalexan
at Wed Aug 13 22:40:01 2003 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by paalexan ]
`Ptyas is clearly the outgroup to all of the species in Utiger et al.'s study. If their data only support this outgroup status weakly, then there is something wrong with their data.'
Utiger et al. also include many taxa not included in Lopez and Maxson's study, or any other studies I've seen of colubrine phylogeny, such as the members of Euprepriophis and Othriophis. If Elaphe sensu lato is mono- or paraphyletic, inclusion of these taxa shouldn't result in reduced support for the outgroup status of Ptyas. Yet their inclusion does reduce this support. I know what my conclusion is. 
Patrick Alexander
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- Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Tue Aug 5 15:20:38 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Fri Aug 8 19:48:08 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sat Aug 9 18:35:21 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Aug 10 12:09:44 2003

- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Aug 10 14:45:35 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Mon Aug 11 06:46:54 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Mon Aug 11 13:03:04 2003

- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Mon Aug 11 18:39:41 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Mon Aug 11 23:10:39 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Mon Aug 11 23:12:29 2003
- Sorry about the double post. No changes in content between them. ~NP~ - paalexan, Mon Aug 11 23:13:57 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Tue Aug 12 00:36:58 2003

- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Tue Aug 12 05:19:31 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Tue Aug 12 05:32:50 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Tue Aug 12 11:48:08 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Tue Aug 12 18:10:16 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Tue Aug 12 18:25:24 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Wed Aug 13 01:12:02 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Wed Aug 13 01:54:51 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Wed Aug 13 02:09:40 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Wed Aug 13 08:59:13 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Wed Aug 13 09:14:49 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Wed Aug 13 21:35:06 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Wed Aug 13 22:00:23 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Wed Aug 13 22:17:50 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Wed Aug 13 22:21:06 2003
RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Wed Aug 13 22:40:01 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Wed Aug 13 22:53:13 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Wed Aug 13 23:36:35 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Thu Aug 14 13:48:59 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Thu Aug 14 14:14:15 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Thu Aug 14 14:37:05 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Thu Aug 14 14:52:04 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Thu Aug 14 14:53:36 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Aug 17 02:43:22 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Aug 17 05:22:14 2003

- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Aug 17 22:56:37 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Aug 17 23:24:09 2003
- BTW... - paalexan, Mon Aug 18 11:14:35 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Sep 21 09:48:50 2003

- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Sep 21 11:34:01 2003

- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Sep 21 12:14:10 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Sep 21 13:41:40 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Mon Sep 22 19:46:48 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Thu Sep 25 19:33:57 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sat Sep 27 16:08:57 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Sep 28 03:19:10 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Sep 28 03:22:40 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Sep 28 18:29:39 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Sep 28 22:02:37 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Oct 5 02:11:40 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - paalexan, Sun Oct 5 03:54:01 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Sun Oct 5 09:50:27 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Mon Dec 22 10:07:23 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Mon Dec 22 10:25:05 2003
- RE: Elaphe is not polyphyletic - RSNewton, Mon Dec 22 10:42:55 2003
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