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RE: Sorry to offend you, but

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Posted by: FR at Thu Sep 28 09:58:06 2006   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]  
   

I really do not want to offend you. Its just you make it so easy. And at the expense of the poor reptiles

Iggies are very similar to monitors, both use A LOT of heat, and other temps. When monitors are kept at the temps people vommonly keep iggies, they do fail and need all sorts of attention to make up for lack of proper choices. When people kept Savs in a narrow range of temps, like high temps in the 90's, people said, Savs cannot eat mice as the fur blocks them up and they die. They also said, rodents causes liver failure. etc etc etc etc etc etc.

The problem was not mice or consipation, it as lack of a proper temp range and high levels of dehydration. Consider, all captive reptiles, even mine, are always in some stage of dehydration, as we do not give them tools to stay hydrated.

I this manner Iggies are NOT different. I have observed(and caught/harassed) green and brown iggies from all over their range, from South America to the antillies, to mex. And they use heat, just like monitors. They also feed on birds and lizards, as well as plants, but in nature, they have to ability to attain the conditions to allow proper digestion and processing of this diet.

I have no doubt that if captive iggies had proper conditions(range of temps and humidity) they would not have the common problems they have now. I did keep iggies many years ago, and I did not have the understanding I have now, but even having a limited understanding of captive reptiles, my captives had no problem consumes birds and lizards(man did they love lizards) and did not need UV bulbs.

LIKE with varanids, healthy lizards lay eggs, that IS THEIR DESIGN, you have to shoot them to stop them. Yet the billions of iggies in captivitity rarely successfully reproduce. So your telling me, you iggie folks have conditions right?????????? Consider, laying eggs or to recruit, is done at the bare minimum of health, not at the extreme top end of health.

When you offer a healthy iggie a mouse or bird or lizard, it attacks and cosumes it with lust in its eyes. I have to wonder why? After all, I did not give any iggie, a, you should eat meat class, they known how to all on their own.

But I do agree, if under improper conditions, they will fail, but then most iggies fail(to live or achieve life events) under the methods they are kept now. Just like most varanids kept under petshop conditions.

Sorry to be so blunt, but does the torture of animals deserve otherwise. And don't go yelling at me, about how rude I am, how about you folks taking responsibility and looking at the animals, then ask them. If they have problems, they are YElling at you, something is wrong.

Again, those stinking UV bulbs, do not do anything, compared to sun exposure, they are not even one raindrop in a heavy rainstorm. You folks are getting the wool pulled directly over your heads by the producers of UV bulbs.

A major point with reptiles is, THEY LIVE IN A WORLD THAT EXCEEDS THEIR NEEDS, not in a world of one optimum temp or condition. With montiors or iggies, you do not have the right temps, until the lizard in question decides its too hot or too cool. These lizards are designed to bask and quickly achieve needed heat, not sit in a basking area or the sun(in nature) all day. They need to achieve needed heat(and that varies with the intented task) then quickly move about their business, which in the case of iggies is, to hang out in a tree, with a bunch of other iggies, over a stream. Or sit in the shade feeding on grass and chasing grasshoppers.

And if you do not believe me, don't get mad at me, TRY IT and see. AND KEEP trying it, until your iggies live, grow, reproduce and keep living, on a regular basis, as they are intented to do. Cheers


   

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