cedar may not hurt rats at first but may cause troubles later..as mentioned....it causes respiratory distress......



aspen is best.......cleanest and best smelling but it costs 2 times as much as pine at least ..



pine works..I have used pine for 16 years this time around and have used it long ago in the late 70's and early 80's....



..as for cedar.......some rodents WILL die from it...period.....rissian hamsters will get sick and lose all their hair.......I've seen it and gotten them free and placed them on pine where they regrew the hair.........



some rodents like pygmy mice will suffer fast......zebra mice (cannot get them anymore).......certain rare rodents cannot take pine even,........



good luck......go to pine.......



oh...some snakes will not eat rodents kept on cedar due to them smelling like cedar......



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