The nuances of these snakes are many and varied, I studied this forum and the alterna page for 2 years before I ventured in, I am still a novice hunter for these amazing animals and along the way was side swiped by all of the beauty that west Texas has to offer herpwise and even plantwise! All that said, if you would research the alterna page you could do your own research that THESE people have provided to YOU ON THIS FORUM so you could ask better questions about the snakes you buy. Hundreds of photos and exact locale data led me to being on my first trip with 4 alterna found along with a lepidus, hysiglena and a red coachwhip, Many other herps were found, shoot, even saw a porcupine and ringtails. These guys bend over backwards to help but draw the line or seriously question locality snakes that do not fit the mold. Take the advice, look into it yourself, don't be a $hit about it. In the nicest way!

Todd Hughes

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