did i say anything else???

sorry, englisch is not my mother tounge and my formulation in the last posting was a bit confusing.



i think we are talking about nearly the same. i did not understand that you think sunglow and sunset are the same.



my example was like your pastel one.

there are sunglows and hypo hogs.

the lipstick sunglow is a special "line" of sunglows and the sunsets are a "line" of hypo hogs.



the founders of these lines give them the name. of course the names are also to add a value but "lines" are visual and you can see the difference.



for example you can not sell a klingenberg hog island as a lemke hog.

the name of the founder is a added value to get a higher profit and make him more common - you are right here, but the two lines are different from each other and the two founder invested a lot of time and work to develop the traits which makes "their line". so it is just normal and well-deserved that these animals achieve higher prices like an average hog island even if all are "just" hog islands.



every sunsets is a hypo hogs, but not every hypo hog is a sunset!! which makes the sunsets rare.

no reputable breeder would sell his hypo hog offspring as sunset if they have no dependence to the original sunsets of damian.



a more common example are the salmon boas. every salmon is a hypo but not every hypo is a salmon..... there a thousand more of these examples



i hope you understand my expressions now better.

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