I agree I put it in a crass manner, and I apologize if I came across that I enjoy watching animals suffer. That is simply ridiculous.



We seem to be a society that likes to pretend our chicken or our beef or our shoes comes pre-packaged and was never a live animal that did indeed suffer, often greatly and completely needlessly. You or certainly most all of us on this forum do not need this to survive. We eat it or wear it because it tastes good or looks nice or is convenient. But we make sure we are far removed from the killing and suffering so we feel better. No worse, we feel nothing.



Consider monitors...all the frozen mice you have at this moment or in the past most likely suffered greatly, much more so than that iguana or one of those parakeets for example. Mammals in particular have a highly developed sense of fear and pain...honed by millions of years of evolution. That trait is in fact how we survived and why you are here today. Interesting you do not consider yourself sick or twisted for feeding your monitor these animals...yet you participate in it only for your own personal and selfish enjoyment of a reptile. Even the neck dislocation method of killing mice is simply brutal in my opinion...dont you think they have a moment of extreme terror as their necks are clamped on to? Or that even after the dislocation they are not feeling complete and utter terror and pain for a moment as their life slips away? Or the choking, gasping & writhing around in pain gas method? How sick is that?



Monitors and snakes are brutal unforgiving predators and the very act of 'owning' one places me right in the mix of that. I dont pretend otherwise by thawing a mouse or a chick or mixing vitamins with 'ground turkey'. I am well aware that I have chosen, for nothing more than selfish reasons...to remove an animal from their natural environment (CBB or not) simply for my own enjoyment. I can cloak it under the guise of education or conservation or whatever I like, but the truth is the truth. This requires the suffering of many many animals that would otherwise not suffer in this manner. At least those that kill for food or clothes do it for more than personal entertainment, none of us here can say the same as we throw a thawed mouse into a monitor enclosure.



I suggest you look around at the huge glass house you find yourself in and drop the rocks. I understand it is a 'PC' world nowadays, but I am not a 'PC' person and never will be.



Tom

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