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RE: This question is getting silly

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Posted by: FR at Sat Apr 21 09:47:43 2007   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]  
   

A couple of things. Most(in number) of my clutches come in winter, which means its not outside.

The answer to your question is very simple, it does not matter.

You see, once you understand what they need, its far easier to provide it inside. As outside is unreliable and uncontrollable.

Its cold and rainy right now. I have three gravid monitors outside. Hmmmmmmmm. Its cold and rainy outside and I have a 5 gravid monitors inside.Hmmmmmmmm inside the monitors do not have to tolerate the unusually cold whether we are having this april. We had an exceptionally hot march and a exceptionally cold april. That confuses the heck out of monitors. It does not confuse the inside monitors. The third option, indoor/outdoor, also get very confused with odd swings in weather.

On an apples to apples comparison, I get more clutches and more hatchable eggs inside then outside(species and individuals). But I get hatchable eggs doing both. You see, most people are naive about what the needs of monitors are, so they hope that outside covers what they do not understand and provide inside.

On the otherhand, the sun heats like a litebulb(big bulb), only we do not have to pay for it, its free. Also outside space is cheaper then inside space, if you have the land(I do)

On the otherhand, outside is very dry in the summer and we spend lots of money on water(expensive in the desert) very cold in winter(more electricity then inside) and does both on the same day(more work for franky) or automatic controls which fail and still makes more work for franky.

What bothers me is most people fail indoors, so they blame Vodoo(the sun) or magic or something. They think it cannot be them so they think its the sun. Its not, well it is in a way, the sun allows for a huge temperature range. Huge I tell you. This is what allows outdoor monitors success, not the sun. If they have this range, they will not use the sun.

I have recomended for DECADES to offer a range of temps, a huge range of temps. In fact a range of temps that exceeds their actual needs, Hmmmmmmm thats what outside does. Then let the monitors pick what they need. Hmmmmmmmm thats what monitors do outside, they pick what they need, when they need it. Hmmmmmmm offer that inside. Heck, its easy.

The problem is, outside monitors die when the extremes occur, too hot, too cold, too dry and too wet. Indoors extremes are very easy to control, outside, how do you stop a flood(of extremes)

But then its only common sense, monitors or the like, only live in certain parts of the world that provide the conditions they need. All the other areas in the world(the U.S. is one of them)(with the possible exception of some short term south Fla. neigborhoods) have extremes that limit their survival. Cheers


   

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