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TnK
at Sat May 12 19:26:29 2007 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by TnK ]
I understand Cities as well as how animals are processed into the USA,as well as a few other means outside common knowledge.
Im saying there isnt a soul liveing that can prove these Honduran BCI came from "ANY WHERE" with in the bounadries of Honduras, muchless Island specific like Dennis tried to float.
I would highly question anyone trying to prove the locale of "any" Honduran form BCI in culture today. They were all smuggled into the USA under radar along with other substances of less then legal status 
Russo and Crutchfield and acouple others all report several trips to that island without seeing any red belly bci.What few were found all had the gray'ish ventrals(much cleaner/less speckled)uniform saddles with even peaks that were almost white.
Many trips resulted in no confirmed sightings of BCI.
An agreed "Island location" with confirmed captures of red ventral BCI(not imports and nothing to the degree of color we know them now) were from Big Utila and the Corn Islands.
Many speculations between the known Corn Isle and incorrectly labeled Roatans are one and the same form of BCI. Can this be argued ? Surely !! Can either side WIN Conclusively ?
NOT A CHANCE IN HELL !!Put them thru any test you care to and
they are EXACTLY the same.Im mean to the letter "same"!
No diluted reference to "likeness" has a chance.
next .....
TnK
>>are you just saying that there are no boas with CITES from the island?
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>>CITES are issued by the governing country. Unless Roatan Island (or rather the island chain) has its own government I would think even boas from the Island would be sent out from Honduras.
>>CITES papers also do not denote subspecies. They are really one of the weakest things to determine locality. The only thing on there is the country from which the boa was exported. For example, if someone had a CBB boa exported from the US to Europe the European keeper would have a copy of the export papers from the US, that doesn't make it a US boa.
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>>This problem does occur with Sabogae. The documented stock are CBB in Costa Rica (for those not bred in the US or Europe), so the CITES for sabogae look the same as Costa Rican imperator. Some Sabogae are reported to come in on shipments from Panama, just stuck in with Panamanian boas. Again the CITES there just say Boa constrictor, and Panama. I have boas from CR and Panama with such CITES so that's why I am using those examples.
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>>http://www.GilbertBoas.com/
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RE: Another question... - TnK, Sat May 12 19:26:29 2007