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at Mon Jun 11 09:23:10 2007 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]
RR equals Retes rant,(retes boards are better)
About Savs, females lay eggs from 18 inches total lenght. If you have a Sav and it grows to three feet and has not laid eggs, its a male.
About introducing them. There is nothing to read, either do it or not. Its just plain that simple. What happens after that, is the question and again, its not about something you read. Its about how tough you are. If you can withstand them fighting and possibly perishing. Or where you draw that line. There is no clear cut line. Raising them together is best, after that, are you feeling lucky, you could be lucky.
You say, you have an ability to judge behavior(my speciality) this putting them together will put that to the test. Good luck with that. I am serious. Your going to need luck.
Heres the rant
Also you are totally naive about your species of choice. Its not about Savs being nice or not, or better or worse. That has nothing to do with it. Its much more complicated that that. Monitors are simple, people are not.
Monitors are a lot of work, a lot of work. And a lot of time. and material. If you do not value your time and effort, you most likely have no value. You really should value your effort and be rewarded for it. In reality, without some type of reward, you will lose interest. That is history period. All that have bred Savs, stopped breeding them, WHY? they all claimed a love of Savs. Yet they all stopped and stopped quickly. I could explain this too, its about not actually knowing what they were doing, in the begining. The benefit was not enough to force them to keep learning, so they quit Of course, they did not say, I quit, they simply did not put forth the effort needed to succeed. So the animals lingered around until they die off or the keeper sells off the whole group.
The secret to breeding monitors is time and effort. And money, they are expensive to breed. Most snakes do not need added energy, year a round. Monitors do. Most snakes feed seasonally, monitors feed year around. Most snakes can be fed once a week or less, depending on time of the year, monitors should be fed several times a day or at least once a day(depending on what kind of progress your looking for) Old non productive individuals are not so expensive.
While all that does not sound all that bad for one or two monitors. But if your successful, which is YOUR GOAL, you no longer have one or two, you have lots and lots. Monitors are explosive breeders. If you support them good enough for a clutch, they have lots of clutches. The problem becomes how to stop it.
Monitors(savs) do not sell quickly, at a decent price, so you will hold on to them. Unless you sell them for peanuts. But after all that time and work, you will not want to sell your animals(your babies) to someone who will pay more for one meal at a fastfood joint, then they will pay for a living animal(your baby). You will(should) grow very tired of that.
Also, if you breed them, you have to excess them. Who do you want to excess them too? People who are not willing to pay more the $25???? people who want to feed them canned crickets???? people who will keep them with screen tops??. How long can you stand folks murdering your babies?
You do understand, the less people pay for something, the more pain they are on you. So, you may spend days on someone who pays $25 and ten minutes on someone who pays $2000 or more. That is fact. Of course there are always exceptions, just not enough.
Like most businesses, the fun part is keeping and caring for the monitors, the not fun part is the business end. In this case, the people, in general are not the fun part. Some are, but only some.
Are you getting the picture? Its not about the species as far as the species is concerned.
For me it turns out this way. I breed species(to sell) that are very durable, not for my sake. But instead for those who are going to keep them. Can you imagine what percentage of death will occur with the prasinus group. Can you imagine how high that will be, once they are affordable? Do you see this picture?
So, while I use the word "naive" all the time, folks rarely(never) understand what it means. It does simply mean, naive. I too have told myself lots of things, but talking to yourself is not the same as actually experiencing the reality. The reality is, its not what you think, therefore your naive. Its all fine and dandy, until you reach your goal, to become successful, then it all changes and you have a different set of realities.
The folks who stay in this the longest are commerial. The reason is, the goal is money(a reward) this reward covers the problems. The problems are not the monitors, they are fun and a joy. Its the people who create the problems, will you do that for a loss? that is the question. Cheers
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RE: Sorry another RR - FR, Mon Jun 11 09:23:10 2007